Here's a 33 minute period from this morning. To me they look kind of
inverted - one goes up when the other goes down. At least in this sample.
The 50-minute cycles may be there but have to be confirmed by the math ...
the mind is sometimes too good at finding patterns.

Jeff


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 7:00 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think that there is a strong correlation between the ambient and the
> assumed power output.
>
>  Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnaud Kodeck <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2012 4:41 am
> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Direct heating of Celani's wire at EU cell of MFMP
>
>  The frequency of T° ambient and P_Xs are the same (Around 50 minutes). Is ir
> a coincidence?
>
> Arnaud
> > On 2012-12-13 03:29, Craig wrote:
> > > This is so strange. I set the data in View Test Celani Cell #2, found
> > here:
> > >
> > > http://data.hugnetlab.com/
> > >
> > > to view back 4 hours. Then I selected only P_Xs Low. Notice that the
> > > excess power is oscillating between 4 watts and 8 watts, in a very
> > > precise rhythm, with each wave appearing to have the same shape, and
> > > with each wave lasting about an hour. I also see that the wave appears
> > > to be tapering with the lows becoming higher and the heights become
> > > lower. There also seems to be a correlation with T_Ambient, but why?
> >
> > Whatever this is, it didn't happen with the previous overnight run with
> > power applied to the inert wire (and the active wire partially loaded,
> > in hydrogen atmosphere). This is a user-submitted image from the MFMP
> > blog showing it:
> >
> > http://i.imgur.com/bB383.png
> > (note that "Power (Red)" actually shows W instead of bar)
> >
> >  From 2012-12-12 00:00 to about 10:00, external glass temperature (under
> > 50W of indirect heating) didn't seem to fluctuate very much with ambient
> > temperature. However with direct heating (48W) it does quite much.
> >
> > The main difference between those two runs is that the one with indirect
> > heating had a starting hydrogen pressure of 2 bar (which increase with
> > heat, of course), while the latter ones started at 1 bar, probably
> > offering less thermal inertia (but still not explaining how glass
> > temperature variations can be larger than ambient ones, assuming that
> > these are the ones which drive them).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > S.A.
>
>
>

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