On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax 
<a...@lomaxdesign.com>wrote:

> At 05:06 PM 12/20/2012, James Bowery wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <<mailto:
>> a...@lomaxdesign.com>a**b...@lomaxdesign.com <a...@lomaxdesign.com>> wrote:
>>
>> James Bowery <<http://www.mail-archive.com/**
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>> >
>>
>>
>> Perhaps what is so difficult for the Vortex "lame brains" is not
>> deciphering the "Mole" comment, but figuring out why "Lucky Saint" has not
>> provided a video of this LENR disk boiling water.
>>
>>
>>
>> One could easily fake this in a video, it would be trivial. It could be
>> done with, indeed, induction heating of the copper, that could be invisible
>> on the video, and *anything* can be faked in a video. But this could be
>> extremely difficult to fake with an in-person demonstration, where
>> observers could check everything -- except, to preserve "privacy" -- i.e.,
>> intellectual rights, if those matter -- the contents of the copper cell.
>>
>>
>> Induction heating would require a visible device nearby.  If "Lucky
>> Saint" is sincerely attempting to help the world by releasing this
>> technology, as he has presumably attempted by disclosing the fabrication
>> technique, then it would be a small additional effort to post a video of a
>> beaker of water containing the boiling device, with the beaker elevated on
>> some sort of stand that would not plausibly contain an induction heater.
>>
>> Faking that video would be difficult enough to motivate a "Russ" type of
>> fellow, who has access to the requisite resources, to proceed to replicate
>> the recipe.
>>
>
> Aw, c'mon. That level of fake would be trivial. Sure, the video might be
> made so that it would be difficult. But it would still be quite possible
> with video editing software.
>
> Look, it's a lot of work to replicate something like this. I would *not*
> invest that work unless:
>

You aren't a "Russ" kind of guy, though, are you?

He's put quite a bit of work into replicating the Papp piston all with even
less direct information about how to build one.

Am I advising people to go out and build this device based on the current
or even the proposed video "evidence"?

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