Sent from my iPhone On Dec 29, 2012, at 16:42, Mark Gibbs <mgi...@gibbs.com> wrote:
> I was joking. Of course it wasn't his "fault" ... this may not be the place > for levity. Levity is difficult to pick up on during a fine-grained discussion of details, unfortunately. About the sensationalizers and entrepreneurs who make claims, beyond Rossi and Defkalion there is Brillouin, and further afield, there are Lattice Energy, the Rohner brothers and Nanospire. We have a lot of fun analyzing their claims in great detail here. But one should resist putting them all in the LENR basket. Some make claims that what they're doing is LENR, some claim specifically that what they're doing is *not* LENR, some probably don't know much if anything about LENR. To further add to the confusion that exists in the wild and wooly world of free energy, some ambitious individuals have taken it upon themselves to make a distinction between LENR and cold fusion, and to discount the latter. All of this is a recipe for boundless and eternal confusion unless one carefully picks a reference point and proceeds from there. A respected researcher such as Ed Storms or Michael McKubre is a good place to start with regard to demarcating LENR, specifically. It is this smaller set of claims that Jed and Ed Storms are discussing. The subject matter of this list ranges much further than that and gets into claims that are delightfully ludicrous and even possibly fraudulent. Eric
