On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:47 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net>wrote:

RE: underlying physical mechanism in Papp’s device…****
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> Perhaps it’s as simple as the volume changes that occur in piezoceramics
> under an applied voltage… only that its occurring in a gas where individual
> atoms/molecules are free to orient completely with the applied E-field
> resulting in maximum displacement; unlike in condensed matter where the
> alignment, and thus displacement, is restricted due to chemical bonding…
>

I wouldn't be surprised if this is something mundane.  If the mechanism is
known physics, as Heinz Klostermann says in Ruby's video, I do not see how
it would be overunity (unless one brings out the zero point field or
something similar).

Eric

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