Ed, I am confused by your statement that cold fusion is a 2-body to 1 body reaction. I see two reaction components unless I am missing something. One is the alpha particle and the other appears in the form of mass released as energy into the surrounding structure.
Every observer must see that the laws of physics apply to what he sees. My favorite point is to be located precisely between the two protons as they head toward each other with exactly the same energy. In this location an observer sees that a finite amount of kinetic energy is measured for the two particles and that there is exactly zero momentum for the equal velocity pair. When they collide together, there is no motion required for the resulting alpha particle until it releases the excess energy. When that energy is finally emitted in some form, then a reaction force would result in relative motion of the alpha particle. In this manner, both conservation of energy as well as conservation of momentum is shown. In my experience, when these laws are seen by any one observer, then they are true for all of the others. Do you see a hole in this argument? How are the laws true for others but not for the one ideally located? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Cc: Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 10:38 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions The human mind is able to imagine endless possibilities. In order to make any progress, a triage must be done by eliminating the ideas that are so improbable or so illogical that they have very little chance of being correct. That is what I'm attempting to do. In any case, several basic rules MUST be considered. Hot fusion is a conventional 2 body-2 body reaction as is required to carry away the energy and momentum. Cold fusion is a 2-body to 1 body reaction that violates this condition. That violation MUST be acknowledged and explained. People are not free to imaginary any thing. Certain rules are known to apply. These rules are so basic that they MUST not be ignored. Ed Storms On Jan 25, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: d+d=n+He3 and d+d=t+p What about d+d+...+d=? We don't know. This is what many many particle models ends up being. Theyare hot fusion. The only difference it is that there are many, more than 2>, incoming nuclei to fuse. You cannot do that in experiments using colliders, it is too unlikely. So, you cannot say that cold fusion is any different than hot fusion that easily. 2013/1/25 Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> Yes, people try to explain LENR using the behavior described in the paper. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com