Hi Alain
>Until the article in AGEFI Nicolas Chauvin was known as a serial entrepreneur with few startups created. Is it true that Chauvin is now the backer of Jean Louis Naudin? That rumor seems to be circulating. Of interest to vortex and the LENR community, in this regard - is that Naudin did replicate the Mizuno glow discharge experiment and documented decent results, but not overwhelming OU. many years ago. There were other replications as well. Roughly, it was 2000 watts in (electrical) 3500 watts out (thermal). Then the experiments languished. http://jlnlabs.online.fr/cfr/index.htm That level of gain was short of what would be needed for commercial use, and since the electrodes were consumed there could have been a contribution from that factor which was never accounted for - so the experiments went nowhere. Presumably the same situation existed in Japan - which is to say - positive results were seen, but short of commercial potential. However, of further interest in the present tense, is that JLN has an unfinished experiment going-on in the past months using with Tesla Pancake coil. This coil - when used as the secondary in a high frequency transformer, powered by a commercial induction cooker, provides an usual kind of "extra" power. That result seems far removed from LENR on first glance. But with this old coil, which Tesla thought was very important, there is an anomalous amount of power which shows up in the secondary circuit with some loads but not others. With roughly 1000 watts P-in, 1800 watts is seen in the secondary circuit using a DSO. It seems odd NOT to continue on with this experiment, but that MO is also a trademark of JLN (i.e. not continuing with promising experiments). The latest development in this saga, going back 8 years now - is that another French experimenter, not JLN, decided to apply this kind of Tesla Pancake transformer to a glow discharge experiment (Mizuno type) and "seems" to have found that this particular load also provides the additional power anomaly, the one which was seen with halogen lamps, and there is the expectation that this can be layered on top of the LENR anomaly. The experiment is not sophisticated, an there is not enough data collection to make any real determination, but those who are familiar to judge this by appearances only - are impressed - and very hopeful of real data, soon. Hmm . the curious problem in the final chapter of this ongoing story, and the reason for my question to Alain - is that JLN himself has NOT followed up on the glow discharge angle, despite being in a most favorable position to do so. At least not as of a few hours ago. Why not? . one might ask. His silence is almost deafening, as they say. The only answer which makes sense is to "follow the buck" and to assume that a funder of JLN, but probably not EDF, has seen the results for the other experiment - and wants to try to stake a commercial foothold in the surprise experimental combined findings - before that becomes firmly in the public domain. It is probably too late for that now - no matter what JLN finds - given the present state of affairs and several hundred view of the videos. But the main point of this posting is to suggest that if one can combine the two experiments with good synergy - the result would look something like 200 watts P-in (electric) and 600 watts P-out (thermal) with little degradation in electrodes. Now that IS of commercial value - but again, this is an extrapolation, and with no real data. The good news is that real data should show up this week. Cough . cough. Unless an entrepreneur steps in and tries to buy-out everyone involved with the new findings - and withdraw the videos, etc. and then goes for a quick patent on what is already technically in the public domain. That would be the bad news, but even that would prove the point that invention is as often based on serendipity as on careful planning . and also the secondary point that it really does not matter who comes first, with an invention, so long as someone near the front of the line has "cash in hand" and enough foresight to know how to use it effectively. That lesson goes back to Edison, if not before. However, new patent laws may be changing that outcome. Jones
