Of course, no statement can be made about any subject that does not
invite a counter argument. No idea about CF can be suggested that
cannot be shown to be false. Clearly, unless some triage is used to
sort through the arguments and some common sense is applied, the
effect will be impossible to understand. Naturally, I have considered
the possibilities you suggest, Axil, before I came to my conclusions.
Of course what you propose might be true. Nevertheless, I reached my
conclusion by considering all of the observed behavior. A reader will
have to decide for themselves which possibility they want to accept
because it is impossible to debate such details here and reach an
agreed conclusion. No matter what arguments are given, a counter
argument can always be provided.
I stated what I believe and gave the reasons. You stated what you
believe and gave your reasons. That is all we can do.
Ed Storms
On May 6, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
Ed Storms states:
“We know that when large amounts of heat are detected, alpha
emission at a comparable rate does not occur. Clearly, large heat
production and alpha emission are not related.”
This could be a false assumption as follows:
When a thermalization mechanism that transfers nuclear energy
directly to the lattice is in place, alpha particles do not carry
enough energy to penetrate the surface of the CR-39.
In this situation, the alpha particle drifts out of the nucleus at
very low energies rather than being fired off out at high speed.
This thermalization mechanism of nuclear energy from LENR directly
to the lattice makes deductions about the behavior of alpha
particles and their associated behavior and measurement problematic
and unreliable.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Edmund Storms
<stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Eric, ALL nuclear reactions generate heat. Alpha emission is a
nuclear reaction. Therefore, heat was generated. However, the rate
of the reaction was too small to make detectable heat from this
reaction. The only unknown is whether heat from a different reaction
can occur.
We know that when large amounts of heat are detected, alpha emission
at a comparable rate does not occur. Clearly, large heat production
and alpha emission are not related. Therefore, some other nuclear
reaction is the source of the heat. The question is: What is this
source?
When a large amount of heat are produced, helium is detected. This
helium does not come from alpha emission, as the above logic
demonstrates. Therefore, it must result from a different nuclear
reaction. The question is: What is this reaction? That is the
question my and other theories are trying to answer. If you want to
answer the question of where the alpha comes from, you need to start
a different discussion because this emission is clearly not related
to CF.
And NO, helium can not be produced by a reaction that sometimes
makes alpha and sometimes releases He without kinetic energy. Such a
reaction is too improbable to be seriously considered.
Ed Storms
On May 6, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
But if there was no clear excess heat, we have little reason to
conclude we have learned anything from the CR-39 experiments about
the alpha particle flux when there is excess heat.
I do not think they did calorimetry in most of these experiments.
We do not know whether there was heat.
- Jed
