Do you see a charge in conductivity in the wire just before it overheats?
Increase conductivity could also cause your tank circuit to increase in frequency. Can you measure for this? On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:52 PM, <fznidar...@aol.com> wrote: > I was applying RF energy 60 to 500 mega hertz to a thin tungsten wire in > ammonia at one atmosphere. > The ammonia container was very small plastic container to limit any > explosion hazard. > It was a plastic candy tube from Starbucks. > > I have done this with many wires, palladium, nickel, > copper, nichrome etc. > The tungsten wire got hot and blew apart at one point. > > I don't believe that is was a cold fusion reaction. I believe that > the ammonia disassociated > near the warm wire and caused some local heating. > > After doing the experiment many times with hydrogen, natural gas, > propane, helium, > chlorine, the ammonia tungsten experiment reacted differently. > > The tungsten wire was extracted from a retro light bulb. > > I did not like the tungsten because of its high resistance. It did not > resonate in my > RF tank circuit very well, it tended to damp the RF oscillations. > > > I wish there was more to offer. I am beginning to doubt the results of > others as I observed nothing but this. > Not much. I could make a battery out of any two metals and a potato for > demo purposes. I could not, however, build > a high performance high tech battery. I could not demonstrate a > low performance cold fusion reaction no matter what I tried. > I am beginning to become suspect of the whole field. > > Frank Z > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roarty, Francis X <francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 6:19 pm > Subject: re: [Vo]:got something > > Frank, > A little more information please.. the citation is for > reaction rate over a thermal range and for different pressure values. Are > you doing an exact replication of same experiment or did you current thru > your filament? Tungsten can be melted if you created a Langmuir torch… I > do keep an eye on tungsten as a good candidate for LENR because it’s high > melting temp could allow smaller more active final geometry if matched with > an appropriate alloy.. perhaps you found it if your melting occurred > without the electrical arcing normally required for welding :_) > Fran > http://www.lateralscience.co.uk/AtomicH/atomicH.html Invented by Langmuir > in 1926 , this device produces a temperature of 3700 degrees centigrade. > Tungsten can be melted, diamond vapourised. > A jet of hydrogen gas is dissociated as it passes through an electric arc. > H2 > H + H - 422 kJ. An endothermic reaction, with the intensely hot > plasma core of the arc providing the dissociation energy. The atomic > hydrogen produced soon recombines; and this recombination is the source of > such high temperatures (easily outperforming oxy-hydrogen: 2800oC and > oxy-acetylene: 3315oC). > The hydrogen can be thought of as simply a transport mechanism to extract > energy from the arc plasma and transfer it to a work surface. It produces a > true flame, as the heat is liberated by a chemical reaction. H + H > H2 + > 422kJ. The molecular hydrogen burns off in the atmosphere, contributing > little to the heat output. > From the May 1, 1926 issue of The Science News-Letter - > > "...developed by Dr. Irving Langmuir, assistant director of the > Schenectady laboratory, and makes use of what he calls flames of atomic > hydrogen.... Electric currents of 20 amperes and at voltages ranging from > 300 to 800" > From A Text Book of Inorganic Chemistry, Partington 1946 - > > "Atomic hydrogen. - Langmuir (1912) has shown that hydrogen in contact > with a tungsten wire heated by an electric current at low pressure, is > dissociated into atoms: > H2 <=> 2H. This splitting of the hydrogen molecule is attended by the > absorption of a large amount of energy, about 100kcal per gram molecule. > The atomic hydrogen so formed is chemically very active. Langmuir also > showed that atomic hydrogen is formed when an electric arc between tungsten > electrodes is allowed to burn in hydrogen at atmospheric pressure. The > atomic hydrogen was blown out of the arc by a jet of molecular hydrogen > directed across the arc, and formed an intensely hot flame, which is > capable of melting tungsten (m.p. 3400oC). This flame obtains its heat > not from combustion but from the recombination of hydrogen atoms into H2. > It is suitable for melting and welding many metals. Iron can be melted > without contamination with carbon, oxygen or nitrogen. Because of the > powerful reducing action of the atomic hydrogen, alloys can be melted > without fluxes and without surface oxidation. A feature of the flame is the > great rapidity with which heat can be delivered to a surface, which is very > important in welding operations." > > *From:* fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com<fznidar...@aol.com?>] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:01 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [Vo]:got something > > > I tried all kinds of gasses on all sorts of filaments Got nothing then > something happened with ammonia on tungsten filaments. > > http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/1980/F1/f19807600280 > > > I will get to the bottom of what ever melted my wire. > > Frank Znidarsic >
