No, an increase in resistance effects the damping in the tuned circuit not the 
frequency.  I adjust the frequency with a high voltage tuning capacitor.  I got 
it from a  from a very old transmitter years ago.   I shock excite the tuned 
circuit with a spark to get it oscillating. 


Yes, I can measure the frequency with my oscilloscope.  The scope is 40 Mhz but 
is can see frequencies (with a blurry trace) up to about 100 megahertz .


Frank


Do you see a charge in conductivity in the wire just beforeit overheats?
 
Increase conductivity could also cause your tank circuit toincrease in 
frequency.
 
Can you measure for this?





-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:got something



Do you see a charge in conductivity in the wire just beforeit overheats?
 
Increase conductivity could also cause your tank circuit toincrease in 
frequency.
 
Can you measure for this?
 




On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:52 PM,  <fznidar...@aol.com> wrote:

I was applying RF energy 60 to 500 mega hertz to a thin tungsten wire in 
ammonia at one atmosphere.
The ammonia container was very small plastic container  to limit any explosion 
hazard.
It was a plastic candy tube from Starbucks.  


I have done this with many wires, palladium, nickel, copper, nichrome etc.
The tungsten wire got hot and blew apart at one point.


I don't believe that is was a cold fusion reaction.  I believe that the ammonia 
disassociated
near the warm wire and caused some local heating.


After doing the experiment many times with hydrogen, natural gas, propane, 
helium,
chlorine, the ammonia tungsten experiment reacted differently.


The tungsten wire was extracted from a retro light bulb.


I did not like the tungsten because of its high resistance.  It did not 
resonate in my
RF tank circuit very well, it tended to damp the RF oscillations.




I wish there was more to offer.  I am beginning to doubt the results of others 
as I observed nothing but this.
Not much.  I could make a battery out of any two metals and a potato for demo 
purposes.   I could not, however,  build
a high performance high tech battery.  I could not demonstrate a low 
performance cold fusion reaction no matter what I tried.
I am beginning to become suspect of the whole field.


Frank Z



















-----Original Message-----
From: Roarty, Francis X <francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 6:19 pm
Subject: re: [Vo]:got something



Frank,
                A little more information please.. the citation is for reaction 
rate over a thermal range and for different pressure values. Are you doing an 
exact replication of same experiment or did you current thru your filament?  
Tungsten can be melted if you created a Langmuir torch… I do keep an eye on 
tungsten as a good candidate for LENR because it’s high melting temp could 
allow smaller more active final geometry if matched with an appropriate alloy.. 
perhaps you found it if your melting occurred without the electrical arcing 
normally required for welding :_)
Fran
http://www.lateralscience.co.uk/AtomicH/atomicH.htmlInvented by Langmuir in 
1926 , this device produces a temperature of 3700 degrees centigrade. Tungsten 
can be melted, diamond vapourised.
A jet of hydrogen gas is dissociated as it passes through an electric arc. H2 > 
H + H - 422 kJ. An endothermic reaction, with the intensely hot plasma core of 
the arc providing the dissociation energy. The atomic hydrogen produced soon 
recombines; and this recombination is the source of such high temperatures 
(easily outperforming oxy-hydrogen: 2800oC and oxy-acetylene: 3315oC). 
The hydrogen can be thought of as simply a transport mechanism to extract 
energy from the arc plasma and transfer it to a work surface. It produces a 
true flame, as the heat is liberated by a chemical reaction. H + H > H2 + 
422kJ. The molecular hydrogen burns off in the atmosphere, contributing little 
to the heat output.
>From the May 1, 1926 issue of The Science News-Letter -

"...developed by Dr. Irving Langmuir, assistant director of the Schenectady 
laboratory, and makes use of what he calls flames of atomic hydrogen.... 
Electric currents of 20 amperes and at voltages ranging from 300 to 800" 
>From A Text Book of Inorganic Chemistry, Partington 1946 -

"Atomic hydrogen. - Langmuir (1912) has shown that hydrogen in contact with a 
tungsten wire heated by an electric current at low pressure, is dissociated 
into atoms:
H2 <=> 2H. This splitting of the hydrogen molecule is attended by the 
absorption of a large amount of energy, about 100kcal per gram molecule. The 
atomic hydrogen so formed is chemically very active. Langmuir also showed that 
atomic hydrogen is formed when an electric arc between tungsten electrodes is 
allowed to burn in hydrogen at atmospheric pressure. The atomic hydrogen was 
blown out of the arc by a jet of molecular hydrogen directed across the arc, 
and formed an intensely hot flame, which is capable of melting tungsten (m.p. 
3400oC). This flame obtains its heat not from combustion but from the 
recombination of hydrogen atoms into H2. It is suitable for melting and welding 
many metals. Iron can be melted without contamination with carbon, oxygen or 
nitrogen. Because of the powerful reducing action of the atomic hydrogen, 
alloys can be melted without fluxes and without surface oxidation. A feature of 
the flame is the great rapidity with which heat can be delivered to a surface, 
which is very important in welding operations."
 

From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:got something

 


I tried all kinds of gasses on all sorts of filaments   Got nothing then 
something  happened with ammonia on tungsten filaments. 

 

http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/1980/F1/f19807600280

 

 

I will get to the bottom of what ever melted my wire.

 

Frank Znidarsic








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