Dave,

Good call on the metal screening. I'll tell Harry to call off the mutant and 
ill-tempered sea bass :)

I started out this morning very gung-ho about it all, and as the day has 
progressed, and I read more peripheral material, I ended up with more open 
questions than answers. I think of myself as open-minded but strongly analytic 
too. I have been running with the Woodward crowd for over 15 years, and if that 
isn't fringe and speculative physics, I don't know what is.

I couldn't put a number on how convinced I am. It's not 0% and neither is it 
100%. Let's say I'm 50/50 for now. The fence is uncomfortable, but at least a 
path to the resolution of open issues appears to exist. I can't say fairer than 
that. If I have an agenda, I'd describe it as the fervent desire for this thing 
to work!

Best, Andrew
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Roberson 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem


  The ECAT is made of metal if I recall correctly which would not allow RF to 
penetrate to activate the resistor antennas.  Some might be able to follow the 
wiring into the device, but the level would have to be quite large which would 
most likely demolish the instrument readings.

  Andrew, are you approaching this from the point of view of a skeptic that 
absolutely does not believe that the ECAT works?  If so, I can understand why 
you are stretching so far.  Could you be convinced that Rossi actually has a 
working device?

  Dave
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Andrew <andrew...@att.net>
  To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
  Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 9:51 pm
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem


  The remaining "output hoax" possibility is beamed RF into the "antenna 
resistors". Now, I do realise that this entails Prof. Levi crawling around in 
the rafters like Quasimodo...LOL. No, I am inclined to say that the input side 
is where attention needs to be focussed. There's a black box there - the 
waveform generator - that's off limits.

  Andrew
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: David Roberson 
    To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:47 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem


    You definitely should drop any reference to powerful lasers.  Can you 
imagine the liability that Rossi would face when reflections or direct path 
radiation caused serious injuries?  This is far outside the realm of reality.

    The input questions are much more relevant, and I suspect that they can be 
set aside with the proper scrutiny.

    Dave
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Andrew <andrew...@att.net>
    To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
    Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 9:27 pm
    Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem


    Hey, I admit that's a bit far out. But lasers can be straightforwardly 
coerced into producing something that's not a spot, you know. 

    If there's foul play, my money is on the input side, frankly.

    Andrew
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: David Roberson 
      To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
      Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:18 PM
      Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem


      And, of course, the reason that they misread the instruments was that 
they were all blinded by the high power IR.  Give me a break.

      Dave
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com>
      To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
      Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 6:52 pm
      Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem


Mr. Gibbs, welcome to our world.

Andrew, infrared lasers?  Really.

Okay, somehow these scientists missed the hidden CO2 laser which would
create spot heating of the test device.

:-)

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