dave, I am not offended. I find his reaction kinda funny. On this list we are allowed to think outside our respective disciplines... or self-disciplines ;-)
harry On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:29 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > Harry, please do not be offended by that guy. Remember, I was not able to > teach him elementary electronic theory. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 1:19 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, > supports David Roberson's linear-response theory > > Please read what I write. > I drew an analogy between the two types of circuits diagrams. > > > Harry > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Andrew <andrew...@att.net> wrote: > >> ** >> I think you are ridiculously irrational. *Look at the circuit diagram*. >> What precisely is wrong with you? That you are not an EE and cannot >> interpret the "funny symbols"? Good grief. There sure are some ripe >> steamers on this list. Roberson was bad enough. Then there's ...ah >> fergeddit. >> >> Andrew >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:08 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, >> supports David Roberson's linear-response theory >> >> I think you are bluffing. >> >> >> harry >> >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Andrew <andrew...@att.net> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> It's a capacitor in parallel with a resistor. I am underwhelmed. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:55 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, >>> supports David Roberson's linear-response theory >>> >>> >>> The diagram reminds me of constructions consisting of springs and >>> dashpots in series and parallel which are used to model viscoelastic >>> materials. >>> see e.g. >>> >>> http://gertrude-old.case.edu/276/materials/5.fig/05.htm6.gif >>> http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0023643808000790-gr1.jpg >>> >>> His circuit diagram could be considered an electric model of force >>> interaction at the atomic scale within the Ecat's fuel. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> harry >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Andrew <andrew...@att.net> wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> Let's make sure I understand these 4 plots. I understand your diagram >>>> thus: >>>> >>>> The blue square wave goes through your toy model and emerges as the >>>> green double exponential. >>>> The blue triangular wave goes through your toy model and emerges as the >>>> green curve that looks very like the power curve in the report. >>>> The toy model describes a thermal simulation which translates >>>> electrical input to the device to radiant power output. >>>> >>>> OK so far? >>>> >>>> Assuming yes, here's what I think you've shown. The control box >>>> consumes power as a square wave (which is what the report measures on the >>>> input side), and outputs a triangular wave to the device. The device's >>>> output power profile (radiant heat) comes out as per the report. Bazinga. >>>> >>>> The only problem is that the cable between the control box and the >>>> device contains "secrets". That's your next reverse-engineering mission :) >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Alan Fletcher" <a...@well.com> >>>> To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:37 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spice model explains eCat non-exponential waveform, >>>> supports David Roberson's linear-response theory >>>> >>>> >> From: "Andrew" <andrew...@att.net> >>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:53:45 PM >>>> >> That's a nice piece of reverse engineering - Kudos. My only issue >>>> >> with it is >>>> >> the plot in the report, which definitely shows square waves. Mind >>>> >> you, these >>>> >> were measured on the input side of the control box. So it's possible >>>> >> you've uncovered a secret about the actual drive waveform. >>>> > >>>> > The square waves are the INPUT stimulus. The wavy line (eg plot 8) is >>>> the OUTPUT power. >>>> > >>>> > But the general shape will be similar. >>>> > >>>> > (I displayed voltage ... equivalent to temperature. I still have >>>> lots to do. >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >> >
