You did not use the potassium based "secret sauce" that Rossi uses.

Without the ability to create potassium clusters, the reaction is weak.
Using only hydrogen clusters will not support a vigorous reaction.


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:

> Axil, you make your statements with great certainty. Have you ever
> actually studied Ni and successfully caused LENR? I have and I do not see
> the behavior you claim must occur.
>
> Ed Storms
>
> On May 29, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>
> EMF simulation in the CB range will form nanoparticles (aka clusters).
> Potassium is the best candidate for the formation of dynamic NAE through
> nanoparticle formation when stimulated by EMF.
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Arnaud Kodeck <arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be>wrote:
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>> Ed,****
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>> I think you forget to add the EM stimulation controlled by the black box
>> between wall socket and the eCat.****
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>> Arnaud****
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>> *From:* Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com]
>> *Sent:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53
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>> *To:* **vortex-l@eskimo.com**
>> *Cc:* Edmund Storms
>> *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat****
>>
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>> Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that
>> this must be done. A secret sauce is applied before the Ni is placed in the
>> e-Cat in order to create the NAE. You need to identify how many additional
>> secret sauces you think are involved. He also places a hydride in the tube
>> to supply hydrogen. This material also might have an effect.  I suggest
>> speculation about things we have no way of knowing is not productive. Let's
>> discuss what is real and required by nature for the observed effect to be
>> produced. ****
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>> We know Rossi activates the Ni before it is used, i.e. creates the NAE.**
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>> We know this powder must make good thermal contact with the wall.****
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>> We know that Ni powder sinters at the temperature being produced.****
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>> We know that the NAE is stable at these temperatures. ****
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>> We know that the generated power increases with increased temperature.
>> Therefore, a positive feedback is operating.****
>>
>> We know that Rossi attempts to control this feedback by controlling the
>> temperature.****
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>> We know that the power source responds rapidly to the external
>> temperature. Therefore, good thermal contact exists between the source and
>> the thermal sink. ****
>>
>> We can suspect that no additional source of energy or stimulation is
>> applied to the power source other than temperature.****
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>> These are the only facts I can identify. Did I miss anything?****
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>> Ed Storms****
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>> On May 29, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:****
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>> Ed,********
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>> you make a good case that something improves the thermal bond of the
>> powder to the inner walls.. perhaps the function of the secret sauce.. I
>> don’t recall the volume of the powder used but am under the impression it
>> fills most of the reactor tube and therefore must also have good thermal
>> bond through it’s own bulk to reach the reactor walls. I think the MAHG was
>> a weak easily compromised cousin to this device with only a thin sputtered
>> layer on the inner wall of the tube while Rossi has designed a way to stack
>> NAE out into a bulk form away from the reactor wall.  I gathered from the
>> thread that very little powder spilled out when they cut it open after
>> destruction… so would assume the bonding held the powder inside as a foam
>> or gelatinous solid? Can we assume the secret sauce must bind the powder
>> into some form of solid. I am leaning toward an open foam like malted milk
>> balls but a recent thread also suggested a gelatinous colloid.********
>>
>> Fran********
>>
>> ** ******
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>> *From:* Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com<stor...@ix.netcom.com>
>> ]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:43 AM
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Cc:* Edmund Storms
>> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat********
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>> Bob, this is a good analysis of a possible design.  You are right, the
>> powder must make good thermal contact with the wall for the nuclear
>> reaction to be controlled by temperature. Just how Rossi makes this happen
>> is unknown.  Nevertheless, most of the active nickel must be attached to
>> the inner wall of the stainless tube. In addition, at the temperatures
>> used, the Ni powder would sinter and not be easily to remove. ****
>> ****
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>> As for modifying the stainless using chemical etch, I doubt this would be
>> effective.  This texture would have to be active initially and remain
>> unchanged at high temperature. Such textures are not stable and would not
>> survive the high temperature. Rossi has done something to the Ni powder
>> that is very stable and not affected by high temperature.  This fact alone
>> greatly reduces the possibilities to anyone familiar with the materials
>> science of this material. Rossi is gradually letting the cat out of the
>> bag, whether he wants to or not.****
>> ****
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>> Ed Storms****
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>> On May 29, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Bob Higgins wrote:****
>> ****
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>> I  would like to submit my speculation about the latest Rossi hotCat for
>> discussion on Vortex-l.****
>> ****
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>> **·         **We are told that the central reactor core is a 310
>> stainless steel cylinder ( 3cm by 33cm).  There is no port for introduction
>> of H2.  The ends are cold welded closed.****
>> ****
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>> **·         **When the test device was sawed open, only a miniscule
>> amount of powder came out.  This cannot be the active powder - it would
>> have melted as loose powder rather than conveying the heat out of the
>> cylinder.****
>> ****
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>> **·         **It is highly desirable to have high thermal conductivity
>> between the NAEs and the outer metal cylinder.  You wouldn't get this with
>> loose powder on the inside.****
>> ****
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>> **·         **310 stainless is ~25% chromium, ~21% Ni, and the balance
>> mostly iron****
>> ****
>>
>> Consider what Celani has done - taken a Ni-Cu alloy wire and etched out
>> the Cu to realize the surface nanotexturing, thus creating NAEs on the wire
>> outer surface.  Suppose we took the 310 stainless cylinder and used a
>> chromium etch on the inner surface.  Chrome etches typically contain nitric
>> acid which will also attack the iron, but not the nickel.  The result could
>> be a nanotextured Ni inner surface of the 310 SS cylinder with perhaps a
>> micro-scale Ni "fur" in *high thermal contact with the cylinder*.  There
>> may be further chemical texturing of the inner surface or nanopowder added
>> as part of a thermo-chemical modification of the surface to create the NAEs
>> in high number on the inner textured Ni surface.****
>> ****
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>> Then, cold weld one end of the cylinder closed.  Calculate the amount of
>> metal hydride needed to release the desired pressure of H2 into the
>> cylinder when it is heated and put this powder inside the cylinder.  Cold
>> weld seal the second end closed.  Viola!  You have a hotCat reactor core.
>> ****
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>> Rossi has also described his "cat and mouse" where the "mouse" was added
>> to enhance the performance of the hotCat.  An easy speculation for this
>> would be that he could take some of his previous Rossi micro-Ni + catalyst
>> powder and add that as well to the hotCat as a means to help the reaction
>> begin from a lower temperature.****
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>> I believe the cylindrical outer heaters are just resistor coils embedded
>> in a high thermal conductivity ceramic.****
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