I think that compound was also used in the high school reactor. They claim a COP of 4.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Arnaud Kodeck <arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be>wrote: > K2CO3 ?**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:49 > *To:* vortex-l > > *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat > **** > > ** ** > > They stated that the chemical was potassium carbide or some other carbon > potassium combo.**** > > **** > > Carbon will also make nana-particles when the compound vaporizes.**** > > ** ** > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> > wrote:**** > > OK, can anyone from DGT verify that potassium is required to make Ni > nuclear active? If so, what chemical form is used? **** > > ** ** > > Ed Storms**** > > ** ** > > On May 29, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Axil Axil wrote:**** > > > > **** > > DGT has already stated that they use potassium.**** > > ** ** > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> > wrote:**** > > ** ** > > On May 29, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Axil Axil wrote:**** > > > > **** > > You did not use the potassium based "secret sauce" that Rossi uses.**** > > ** ** > > How do you know his sauce is potassium based? **** > > > > **** > > **** > > Without the ability to create potassium clusters, the reaction is weak. > Using only hydrogen clusters will not support a vigorous reaction. **** > > ** ** > > Again you say this with great certainty. Have you actually tried this idea > and does it work? If so, please publish the results.**** > > ** ** > > Ed Storms**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> > wrote:**** > > Axil, you make your statements with great certainty. Have you ever > actually studied Ni and successfully caused LENR? I have and I do not see > the behavior you claim must occur.**** > > ** ** > > Ed Storms**** > > ** ** > > On May 29, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Axil Axil wrote:**** > > > > **** > > EMF simulation in the CB range will form nanoparticles (aka clusters). > Potassium is the best candidate for the formation of dynamic NAE through > nanoparticle formation when stimulated by EMF. **** > > ** ** > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Arnaud Kodeck <arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be> > wrote:**** > > Ed,**** > > **** > > I think you forget to add the EM stimulation controlled by the black box > between wall socket and the eCat.**** > > **** > > Arnaud**** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] > *Sent:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53**** > > > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Cc:* Edmund Storms**** > > *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > **** > > Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that > this must be done. A secret sauce is applied before the Ni is placed in the > e-Cat in order to create the NAE. You need to identify how many additional > secret sauces you think are involved. He also places a hydride in the tube > to supply hydrogen. This material also might have an effect. I suggest > speculation about things we have no way of knowing is not productive. Let's > discuss what is real and required by nature for the observed effect to be > produced. **** > > **** > > We know Rossi activates the Ni before it is used, i.e. creates the NAE.*** > * > > We know this powder must make good thermal contact with the wall.**** > > We know that Ni powder sinters at the temperature being produced.**** > > We know that the NAE is stable at these temperatures. **** > > We know that the generated power increases with increased temperature. > Therefore, a positive feedback is operating.**** > > We know that Rossi attempts to control this feedback by controlling the > temperature.**** > > We know that the power source responds rapidly to the external > temperature. Therefore, good thermal contact exists between the source and > the thermal sink. **** > > We can suspect that no additional source of energy or stimulation is > applied to the power source other than temperature.**** > > **** > > These are the only facts I can identify. Did I miss anything?**** > > **** > > Ed Storms**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > On May 29, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:**** > > ** ** > > Ed,**** > > you make a good case that something improves the thermal bond of the > powder to the inner walls.. perhaps the function of the secret sauce.. I > don’t recall the volume of the powder used but am under the impression it > fills most of the reactor tube and therefore must also have good thermal > bond through it’s own bulk to reach the reactor walls. I think the MAHG was > a weak easily compromised cousin to this device with only a thin sputtered > layer on the inner wall of the tube while Rossi has designed a way to stack > NAE out into a bulk form away from the reactor wall. I gathered from the > thread that very little powder spilled out when they cut it open after > destruction… so would assume the bonding held the powder inside as a foam > or gelatinous solid? Can we assume the secret sauce must bind the powder > into some form of solid. I am leaning toward an open foam like malted milk > balls but a recent thread also suggested a gelatinous colloid.**** > > Fran**** > > **** > > *From:* Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com<stor...@ix.netcom.com> > ] > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:43 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Cc:* Edmund Storms > *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat**** > > **** > > Bob, this is a good analysis of a possible design. You are right, the > powder must make good thermal contact with the wall for the nuclear > reaction to be controlled by temperature. Just how Rossi makes this happen > is unknown. Nevertheless, most of the active nickel must be attached to > the inner wall of the stainless tube. In addition, at the temperatures > used, the Ni powder would sinter and not be easily to remove. **** > > **** > > As for modifying the stainless using chemical etch, I doubt this would be > effective. This texture would have to be active initially and remain > unchanged at high temperature. Such textures are not stable and would not > survive the high temperature. Rossi has done something to the Ni powder > that is very stable and not affected by high temperature. This fact alone > greatly reduces the possibilities to anyone familiar with the materials > science of this material. Rossi is gradually letting the cat out of the > bag, whether he wants to or not.**** > > **** > > Ed Storms**** > > On May 29, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Bob Higgins wrote:**** > > > > **** > > I would like to submit my speculation about the latest Rossi hotCat for > discussion on Vortex-l.**** > > · We are told that the central reactor core is a 310 stainless > steel cylinder ( 3cm by 33cm). There is no port for introduction of H2. > The ends are cold welded closed.**** > > · When the test device was sawed open, only a miniscule amount of > powder came out. This cannot be the active powder - it would have melted > as loose powder rather than conveying the heat out of the cylinder.**** > > · It is highly desirable to have high thermal conductivity > between the NAEs and the outer metal cylinder. You wouldn't get this with > loose powder on the inside.**** > > · 310 stainless is ~25% chromium, ~21% Ni, and the balance mostly > iron**** > > Consider what Celani has done - taken a Ni-Cu alloy wire and etched out > the Cu to realize the surface nanotexturing, thus creating NAEs on the wire > outer surface. Suppose we took the 310 stainless cylinder and used a > chromium etch on the inner surface. Chrome etches typically contain nitric > acid which will also attack the iron, but not the nickel. The result could > be a nanotextured Ni inner surface of the 310 SS cylinder with perhaps a > micro-scale Ni "fur" in *high thermal contact with the cylinder*. There > may be further chemical texturing of the inner surface or nanopowder added > as part of a thermo-chemical modification of the surface to create the NAEs > in high number on the inner textured Ni surface.**** > > **** > > Then, cold weld one end of the cylinder closed. Calculate the amount of > metal hydride needed to release the desired pressure of H2 into the > cylinder when it is heated and put this powder inside the cylinder. Cold > weld seal the second end closed. Viola! You have a hotCat reactor core.* > *** > > **** > > Rossi has also described his "cat and mouse" where the "mouse" was added > to enhance the performance of the hotCat. An easy speculation for this > would be that he could take some of his previous Rossi micro-Ni + catalyst > powder and add that as well to the hotCat as a means to help the reaction > begin from a lower temperature.**** > > **** > > I believe the cylindrical outer heaters are just resistor coils embedded > in a high thermal conductivity ceramic.**** > > **** > > Comments? **** > > **** > > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** >
