Hi Roger,

There may be transition range well below c but still very very fast by
everyday experience which gives rise to the condition you imagine.

I too have wonder if there is some connection between coulombic forces and
speed...and frequency.

Harry





On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Roger B <rogerbi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Disappointing, Joe.  5% is just a little on the slow side, relativity
> speaking.   (:->)   I would not call 5% a data point.
>
> Roger
>
> > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 19:24:42 -0700
> > From: jbarr...@slac.stanford.edu
> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:I confess
> >
> > Actually, Rutherford's gold foil experiment used alpha particles,
> > generated by Radon radioactive decay.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geiger%E2%80%93Marsden_experiment
> >
> > According to http://www.epa.gov/radiation/understand/alpha.html and
> > http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Alpha_decay alpha particles
> > typically have an energy around 5 MeV which works out to be a velocity
> > of 5% that of light.
> >
> > - Joe
> >
> > On 6/4/2013 6:12 PM, leaking pen wrote:
> > > I do know that beta particles, used in the famous gold foil
> > experiments, are .75 c in vacuum, but often faster than c in other
> > materials.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Roger B <rogerbi...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I confess to being an ignoramus. I confess to having only a B.A.
> > in psychology, a B.A. in philosophy, and an A.S. in electronics
> > technology. I am, however, a philosophical savant.
> > >
> > > I have a question that I have asked several times but have never
> > gotten an answer. By what means do conventional physicist probe and
> > understand the innards of the atom? What is the minimum speed of the
> > particles that they shoot into the atom to see what is there? Do they
> > ever use some version of light to understand the innards of the atom?
> > >
> > > If, as I suppose, and I could be wrong, all of the particles
> > "shot" into the atom are traveling close to the speed of light, then
> > could not there be some unknown characteristic at this speed, perhaps as
> > yet unknown to us, that causes things inside the atom to behave
> > differently than from how they would behave if the probing particle were
> > going much slower. For example, what if the almost light speed particle
> > had a bow wave in front of it as it flew through the aether? If every
> > single particle that was used to probe the inside of the atom were
> > traveling at .99 the speed of light, then this "distortion" would be the
> > same in every experiment, and one aspect of this limited view inside the
> > atom we might call the "Coulomb Barrier".
> > >
> > > Is this all possible? Or am I off base?
> > >
> > >
> > > Roger Bird
> > > Colorado
> > >
> >
>

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