Axil, we are in agreement over the value of cavitation bubbles which by constant recreation avoid the need for persistent geometry and may even provide a control feature for the reaction. I even agree that it is CURRENTLY naïve to think persistent geometry will long withstand the pressures and temperatures involved but your arguments begs a follow up question.. Do you consider the powder to be changing geometry inside the Rossi reactor or are you counting the plasma as geometry in a kind of Papp or sonofusion sort of way? Historically both Patterson beads and MAHG are examples of destruction in both type of cells with persistent geometry, the issue so far is that the bubbles have not released near as much energy - are you suggesting the Rossi plasma inside the fixed geometry formed by powder is a form of cavitation? Fran
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:03 AM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Scientists Discover Quick Recipe for Producing Hydrogen In fact there may not even be such a thing as a "WET" anomalous cell at the nano scale... I am suggesting that at the scale of the these anomalous environments the catalytic confinement powering these reactions result in gas and plasma reactions. The lesser claims related to wet cell electrolysis may be only a function of higher heat sinking by nearby liquids. This posit would make electrolytic phenomena like bubble fusion and sonoluminescence harder to exploit but much more robust in terms of independence from persistent geometry. Regarding persistent geometry Nano-engineers are developing cavitation bubble based technology to produce industrial 10 micron diamonds out of graphite. This amazing transformation process from graphite to diamond just takes nanoseconds at tremendous pressures and temperatures. http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/pt/diamond/pdf/drm17-931.pdf Based on your posit, it is really naive to think that the fixed cavity based active nuclear environment will long withstand such pressures and temperatures on the surface of the electrodes in an electrolytic cell.