Agreed the important thing is getting enough control of the phenomenon --
at whatever level of economic viability -- that one can conduct controlled
experiments to put to the test the infinite variety of confabulated
theories to which we have been subjected by the know-it-alls be they in the
skeptopath community with their confabulated "experimental errors" or the
cold fusion community with their asserted-as-fact physics-babble.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:

> I agree Mike, and what you say also applies to LENR. The difference is
> that BLP has kept the study localized in his company while LENR is the wild
> West, where all kinds of crazy claims are being made about what can be
> achieved and how the process can be explained. Mills has raised money to
> study the basic process while money for LENR goes to making a working
> device. I see no hope for LENR as long as this approach is taken.
>  Meanwhile, I think Mills has actually initiated nuclear reactions he is
> keeping secret for obvious reasons.
>
> Ed Storms
>
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Mike Carrell wrote:
>
> I do not doubt that when a commercial BLP device emerges, there will be a
> firestorm of criticism that may be greater than what followed the FP
> Effect. Among others, Underwriters Laboratories will be involved, and they
> will demand a full understanding of anything as radical as BLP. The LENR
> community can produce modest excess heat but has not yet compiled a
> coherent understanding comparable to Mills' GUTCP. Nothing of benefit to
> mankind will happen until a new energy source is replicated a million fold.
> Such will require corporate muscle on a large scale. The first CEO to sign
> up will be a brave man. **It is essential that investors and management
> trust that BLP can bail them out if things go sour, which is likely** It
> is not a game for enthusiasts. Only history will sort out the pieces of the
> new reality which is emerging
> Mike Carrell
>  *From:* Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net <jone...@pacbell.net>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:21 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Mill's theory behind the hydrino
>
>
> *From:* Mike Carrell
>
> First, BLP is **chemistry**, dealing with electrons, not nuclei, which is
> the province of LENR.
>
> This is Mike's opinion, and he has followed BLP as long as any of us.
>
> However, it is not fact. Remember that early on, Mills himself reported
> tritium.
>
> For many of us - it is illogical to think that similar experiments done
> with hydrogen, one done by Mills and another by Piantelli - will not have
> similar results; and/or that Mills can magically ordain that LENR and low
> level transmutation or tritium will not happen in circumstance where it is
> known to happen.
>
> Personally, it is my belief that BLP will eventually be shown to be
> "chemistry which precedes and sets the stage for LENR" ... aka CANR and that
> most of the energy comes from LENR.
>
> Now that cell phones can be equipped as radiation monitors, it will be
> almost impossible for Mills to continue to hide the fact that his devices
> can produce nuclear reactions, even if the rate is tiny. Will guards check
> every cell phone on the 28th?
>
> At some point, when an actual product is near - even industrial customers
> (or their liability insurer) will demand to know the complete truth. The
> longer BLP waits to come clean with the facts, the worse will be the
> repercussions.
>
> I guess you can that this will be when the CIHT hits the fan J
>
> Jones
>
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