I need a better term than skeptopath. . How about Aggressively Skeptical 'Humans' Obfuscating Lenr Endeavors (ASHOLEs)?
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]> wrote: > How to know you're dealing with a skeptopath: they won't read the > simplest evidence put in front of them. > > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=32#32 > > > To: *tacticalogic* > *"I'd be interested in a practical source of energy, and you keep > hawking this like it is. Where's the beef?"* > > Nah, you're just regurgitating the standard crawfishing that all > skeptopaths do when they can no longer claim that there is "no scientific > evidence" for cold fusion. > > First the refrain was "cold fusion experiments cannot be repeated". > > Then, when the researchers "did" improve the repeatability, the refrain > became "cold fusion experiments cannot be repeated fifty percent of the > time. > > Then, when repeatability increased past 50%, the refrain became "cold > fusion experiments cannot be repeated 100% of the time". > > Now, as some researchers repeatabiltity numbers approach 100%, the refrain > has become "the amount of power is miniscule, even if it "can" be repeated". > > So, the answer to your question is "the beef is still growing". And an > HONEST respondent would admit that. > > But in the not too distant future, I look forward to when LENR "does" > produce usable amounts of power. I wonder what you skeptopaths will say > then. > 32 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=32#32>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 05:28:54 AM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=32>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.32;reftype=comment>| > To > 31 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#31> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=32> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=32>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Wonder Warthog* > *Nah, you're just regurgitating the standard crawfishing that all > skeptopaths do when they can no longer claim that there is "no scientific > evidence" for cold fusion.* > > Lemme guess. You can't show me the evidence to back that up, I'm supposed > to go find it. > 33 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=33#33>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 05:34:11 AM PST* by > tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=33>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.33;reftype=comment>| > To > 32 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#32> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=33> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=33>] > ------------------------------ > To: *tacticalogic* > *"Lemme guess. You can't show me the evidence to back that up, I'm > supposed to go find it."* > > Not quite. I'll give you two starting places. The first is George > Beaudette's book "Excess Heat". You can access this either by buying a copy > (Amazon)($), or via interlibrary loan (free or $ depending on the policies > of your local library. > > The second is Edmund Storm's collection of summaries of LENR research, > which can easily be found with Google search terms ("Edmund Storms" cold > fusion pdf). Most of the pdf's can be found at LENR-CANR.org. All are > available free. > > Now, why don't I give you direct links?? Because I have found that there > is no better litmus test about the honesty or lack of same of the various > skeptics that show up on these LENR threads. The skeptopaths will NOT > follow up. NOTHING will induce them to actually examine the evidence. The > honest skeptics do. > 34 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=34#34>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 08:46:23 AM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=34>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.34;reftype=comment>| > To > 33 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#33> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=34> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=34>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Wonder Warthog* > > I've looked at LENR-CANR.org. It's interesting research, but I can't find > any research that's actually producing measurable amounts of power to > justify the hyperbole surrouding the phenomenon. > > 35 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=35#35>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 10:24:46 AM PST* by > tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=35>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.35;reftype=comment>| > To > 34 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#34> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=35> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=35>] > ------------------------------ > To: *tacticalogic* > *"I've looked at LENR-CANR.org. It's interesting research, but I can't > find any research that's actually producing measurable amounts of power to > justify the hyperbole surrouding the phenomenon."* > > LOL. Yeah, right. You're read all the thousands of papers at > LENR-CANR.org. SSUUUURREEE you have. > > If you proceed from either of the start points I gave you, you will find > the data quite easily, as the references to specific papers are well > documented in both of them. > > But you won't, will you. > 36 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=36#36>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 01:36:37 PM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=36>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.36;reftype=comment>| > To > 35 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#35> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=36> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=36>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Wonder Warthog* > > No, I won't go through those thousands of pages looking for the > documentation of a practical demonstration of the technology. That's based > on an assumption that if any such documented demonstration had taken place > it wouldn't be buried somewhere down in those thousands of pages, where it > could only be found by sifting through those thousands of pages. > > 37 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=37#37>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 01:47:35 PM PST* by > tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=37>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.37;reftype=comment>| > To > 36 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#36> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=37> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=37>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Kevmo* > *Nuclear energy is based on the use of fissile materials, and is not a > solution, because the stock of these materials is limited.* > > Not with breeder reactors. > 38 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#38>posted on > *Wed > 27 Nov 2013 06:57:26 PM PST* by > aruanan<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Earuanan/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=38>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.38;reftype=comment>| > To > 1 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#1> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=38> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=38>] > ------------------------------ > To: *tacticalogic* > *"No, I won't go through those thousands of pages looking for the > documentation of a practical demonstration of the technology. That's based > on an assumption that if any such documented demonstration had taken place > it wouldn't be buried somewhere down in those thousands of pages, where it > could only be found by sifting through those thousands of pages."* > > LOL...you're precisely proving my point. Pure Skeptopath. > > Clue.....if you start with the Storm's freely available PDF writeups (any > of them), the information is nicely broken down according to what sort of > proof is available, including direct references to (at least the important) > papers on the subject. This includes heat, tritium production, > transmutation, correlation of heat to He4 production, and other. > > This means exactly that you don't "have" to "go through thousands of pages > of documentation looking.......", as the references are already sorted out > and documented. Storms has already done that. Beaudette's book likewise, > though a bit dated nowadays. > > And of course, most of the full papers are available at LENR-CANR.org. > > Route of easiest discovery....Beaudette first, then Storms for newer > information, then LENR-CANR for full papers. > > But you won't look at any of those, of course, because your real interest > is not in discovering how the world works, but bashing LENR. > 39 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=39#39>posted on > *Thu > 28 Nov 2013 04:50:15 AM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=39>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.39;reftype=comment>| > To > 37 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#37> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=39> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=39>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Wonder Warthog* > *LOL...you're precisely proving my point. Pure Skeptopath.* > > Clue...you throw "Skeptopath" around the way gays do with "homophobe". > 40 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=40#40>posted on > *Thu > 28 Nov 2013 04:56:27 AM PST* by > tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=40>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.40;reftype=comment>| > To > 39 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#39> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=40> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=40>] > ------------------------------ > To: *tacticalogic* > *"Clue...you throw "Skeptopath" around the way gays do with > "homophobe"."* > > Only to those who prove themselves to be such by their own behavior on > these threads. But thanks for proving my points so fully and > wholeheartedly. As usual, total refusal to actually look at the published > information, and any comment to shunt attention to that behavior away the > one refusing. An exact fit to the phrase "pathological skepticism". > 41 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=41#41>posted on > *Thu > 28 Nov 2013 09:52:21 AM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=41>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.41;reftype=comment>| > To > 40 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#40> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=41> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=41>] > ------------------------------ > To: *Wonder Warthog* > *Only to those who prove themselves to be such by their own behavior on > these threads.* > > That's what the homos say, too. > 42 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=42#42>posted on > *Thu > 28 Nov 2013 09:54:33 AM PST* by > tacticalogic<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Etacticalogic/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=42>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.42;reftype=comment>| > To > 41 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#41> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=42> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=42>] > ------------------------------ > To: *tacticalogic* > *"That's what the homos say, too."* > > LOL. More proof. You'll say or do anything to avoid confronting the issue > of the existing data. > > Here is the difference between you skeptopaths and real skeptics. A real > science skeptic, given the references I have provided would not rest until > he/she had read them. > > A skeptopath will say or do anything to avoid reading them and change the > subject to avoid acknowledging their existence, much less actually read and > study them. > > Methinks the shoe fits you quite well. > > Enjoy your turkey, turkey. > 43 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=43#43>posted on > *Thu > 28 Nov 2013 03:49:43 PM PST* by Wonder > Warthog<http://www.freerepublic.com/%7Ewonderwarthog/> > [ Post Reply <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/reply?c=43>| > Private > Reply<http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-compose?refid=3095784.43;reftype=comment>| > To > 42 <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=38#42> | View > Replies <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/replies?c=43> | Report > Abuse <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/abuse?c=43>] > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I'm growing weary of the same objections, over and over and over again on >> various internet sites. So I'm going to post each q&a here & just send >> links. >> >> >> >
