It might be a good idea to have a Mass Spec machine that can analyze isotopic 
fractions more than a SEM which is hard to use on local nano systems that may 
have reacted.  

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Bowery 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 5:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of 
everything.





  On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:

    James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:


        They need an SEM and other expensive toys to do an analysis of the 
metal before and after. Without that they are flying blind.


      Before and after _what_?


    Before and after the cold fusion test. To see what changes occurred in the 
metal, and to correlate these changes with excess heat production. 



      My point is that expenditures on diagnostics is getting the cart before 
the horse.  The route to reproducible cold fusion -- hence scientific progress 
-- is in the economic trial of large numbers of Pd electrodes with adequate 
electrochemistry . . .



    That would not be economical. Without diagnostics you would have no idea 
why one sample worked and another did not. With diagnostics even in the absence 
of theory you can identify the microscopic conditions that in samples from 
before the run that correlated with success. You can look at a sample and tell 
beforehand it is likely to work. What we need is lots of equipment to look at 
samples rather than doing a blind search by testing only. The Storms paper 
describes the kinds of procedures that are needed. The thing to do is to 
automate them, speed them up, and do more of them on a microscopic scale, 
because the microscopic scale is where the action is.


  What's uneconomic is buying a bunch of diagnostic equipment and then not 
having any cathodes that have unambiguously exhibited the phenomenon.


  The cart:  Diagnostic equipment.


  The horse:  A supply of cathodes that have unambiguously exhibited the 
phenomenon. 

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