Defrauding people or organizations of money or valuables is the usual purpose of fraud. How was Gamberale defrauded?
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote: > The legal system DOES rely on precedent. And there's tons of it when it > comes to fraud. Is cold fusion supposed to be somehow exempt? > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I thought that the legal system worked on precedent. That is how the >> legal system provides consistency. >> >> >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Axil, that's not how the legal system works. There are no "cold fusion >>> laws". >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Just one legal case dealing will cold fusion please, just one. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Axil, if you lie to someone that something does something it doesn't >>>>> work so they give you money, that's Fraud. >>>>> >>>>> You can use a dictionary, if you like. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> To support your opinion, please provide legal precedent pursuant to >>>>>> pink unicorn fairy dust or cold fusion: just one please. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>>>>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The subject matter is meaningless. The subject could be pink >>>>>>> unicorn fairy dust. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What matters if money changed hands over misrepresentation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At this juncture, cold fusion is not a subject where the words " >>>>>>>> criminal statute", fraud, NDA, jail, and "illegal actions" apply. When >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> valid patent is granted and the field of cold fusion becomes generally >>>>>>>> accepted in the real world, then DGT might well fell it legally >>>>>>>> possible to >>>>>>>> bring Gamberale to account. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>>>>>>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Interesting point, Jed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wonder if this is why DGT is reluctant to sue him, because Luca >>>>>>>>> would have to prove himself by saying that DGT was fraudulent and they >>>>>>>>> don't want to have to defend against that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Jed Rothwell < >>>>>>>>> jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blaze Spinnaker <blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The problem with busting your NDA so openly is that it's going >>>>>>>>>>> to be impossible to get anyone to trust you again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As I pointed out elsewhere, if Gamberale had not "busted his NDA >>>>>>>>>> openly," warned the customers, and closed down the company, he could >>>>>>>>>> end up >>>>>>>>>> in jail. Defkalion cannot enforce an NDA that calls for the person >>>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>>> that NDA to commit fraud. You cannot abide by an NDA contract that >>>>>>>>>> calls >>>>>>>>>> for illegal actions. Defkalion cannot enforce that, or sue for >>>>>>>>>> breach of >>>>>>>>>> contract. You cannot sue someone in civil court because they refused >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> violate a criminal statute. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It may be difficult for Gamberale to get anyone to trust him now, >>>>>>>>>> but if he had continued it would have impossible for him to get the >>>>>>>>>> police >>>>>>>>>> to believe him, which is a far worse predicament. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is real life. You cannot go around trying to sell >>>>>>>>>> non-working machines for millions of dollars. People who have >>>>>>>>>> millions of >>>>>>>>>> dollars will definitely go to the authorities when they find out you >>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>> robbed them. This is not like selling fake Rolex watches from a >>>>>>>>>> suitcase on >>>>>>>>>> Broadway. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
