Somebody wanted to know if there was a precedent for the authorities taking legal action in a cold fusion case. Well let's not neglect to consider crazy John Rohner and his Intelligentry corporation. Admittedly not cold fusion but definitely related. The Plasmic Transition Process descendent of the Papp Engine. Well John Rohner crossed some undefined line and was soundly busted by the SEC. All assets seized, fever dreams of bursting plasma transformed into feverish conspiracy theory sputterings about govt interference.
Steve High On May 21, 2014, at 1:38 AM, "Kevin O'Malley" <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote: > The legal system DOES rely on precedent. And there's tons of it when it > comes to fraud. Is cold fusion supposed to be somehow exempt? > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I thought that the legal system worked on precedent. That is how the legal >> system provides consistency. >> >> >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Blaze Spinnaker <blazespinna...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Axil, that's not how the legal system works. There are no "cold fusion >>> laws". >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Just one legal case dealing will cold fusion please, just one. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Blaze Spinnaker >>>> <blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Axil, if you lie to someone that something does something it doesn't work >>>>> so they give you money, that's Fraud. >>>>> >>>>> You can use a dictionary, if you like. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> To support your opinion, please provide legal precedent pursuant to pink >>>>>> unicorn fairy dust or cold fusion: just one please. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Blaze Spinnaker >>>>>> <blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> The subject matter is meaningless. The subject could be pink unicorn >>>>>>> fairy dust. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What matters if money changed hands over misrepresentation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> At this juncture, cold fusion is not a subject where the words " >>>>>>>> criminal statute", fraud, NDA, jail, and "illegal actions" apply. When >>>>>>>> a valid patent is granted and the field of cold fusion becomes >>>>>>>> generally accepted in the real world, then DGT might well fell it >>>>>>>> legally possible to bring Gamberale to account. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Blaze Spinnaker >>>>>>>> <blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Interesting point, Jed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wonder if this is why DGT is reluctant to sue him, because Luca >>>>>>>>> would have to prove himself by saying that DGT was fraudulent and >>>>>>>>> they don't want to have to defend against that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Blaze Spinnaker <blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The problem with busting your NDA so openly is that it's going to >>>>>>>>>>> be impossible to get anyone to trust you again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As I pointed out elsewhere, if Gamberale had not "busted his NDA >>>>>>>>>> openly," warned the customers, and closed down the company, he could >>>>>>>>>> end up in jail. Defkalion cannot enforce an NDA that calls for the >>>>>>>>>> person under that NDA to commit fraud. You cannot abide by an NDA >>>>>>>>>> contract that calls for illegal actions. Defkalion cannot enforce >>>>>>>>>> that, or sue for breach of contract. You cannot sue someone in civil >>>>>>>>>> court because they refused to violate a criminal statute. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It may be difficult for Gamberale to get anyone to trust him now, >>>>>>>>>> but if he had continued it would have impossible for him to get the >>>>>>>>>> police to believe him, which is a far worse predicament. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is real life. You cannot go around trying to sell non-working >>>>>>>>>> machines for millions of dollars. People who have millions of >>>>>>>>>> dollars will definitely go to the authorities when they find out you >>>>>>>>>> have robbed them. This is not like selling fake Rolex watches from a >>>>>>>>>> suitcase on Broadway. >
