In the quest for a more perfect truth, please identify who DGT has defrauded and of what?
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote: > The issue isn't whether Gamberale was defrauded. It is whether or not > Defkalion engaged in fraud. > > And that issue is probably moot anyways, because the only real thing > someone could hope for is some cash in their pocket from a civil lawsuit. > That isn't gonna happen because Defkalion is broke. > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Defrauding people or organizations of money or valuables is the usual >> purpose of fraud. How was Gamberale defrauded? >> >> >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> The legal system DOES rely on precedent. And there's tons of it when it >>> comes to fraud. Is cold fusion supposed to be somehow exempt? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I thought that the legal system worked on precedent. That is how the >>>> legal system provides consistency. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Axil, that's not how the legal system works. There are no "cold >>>>> fusion laws". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Just one legal case dealing will cold fusion please, just one. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>>>>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Axil, if you lie to someone that something does something it doesn't >>>>>>> work so they give you money, that's Fraud. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can use a dictionary, if you like. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To support your opinion, please provide legal precedent pursuant to >>>>>>>> pink unicorn fairy dust or cold fusion: just one please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>>>>>>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The subject matter is meaningless. The subject could be pink >>>>>>>>> unicorn fairy dust. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What matters if money changed hands over misrepresentation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> At this juncture, cold fusion is not a subject where the words " >>>>>>>>>> criminal statute", fraud, NDA, jail, and "illegal actions" apply. >>>>>>>>>> When a >>>>>>>>>> valid patent is granted and the field of cold fusion becomes >>>>>>>>>> generally >>>>>>>>>> accepted in the real world, then DGT might well fell it legally >>>>>>>>>> possible to >>>>>>>>>> bring Gamberale to account. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>>>>>>>>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Interesting point, Jed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if this is why DGT is reluctant to sue him, because >>>>>>>>>>> Luca would have to prove himself by saying that DGT was fraudulent >>>>>>>>>>> and they >>>>>>>>>>> don't want to have to defend against that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Jed Rothwell < >>>>>>>>>>> jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blaze Spinnaker <blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem with busting your NDA so openly is that it's going >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be impossible to get anyone to trust you again. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As I pointed out elsewhere, if Gamberale had not "busted his >>>>>>>>>>>> NDA openly," warned the customers, and closed down the company, he >>>>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>>> end up in jail. Defkalion cannot enforce an NDA that calls for the >>>>>>>>>>>> person >>>>>>>>>>>> under that NDA to commit fraud. You cannot abide by an NDA >>>>>>>>>>>> contract that >>>>>>>>>>>> calls for illegal actions. Defkalion cannot enforce that, or sue >>>>>>>>>>>> for breach >>>>>>>>>>>> of contract. You cannot sue someone in civil court because they >>>>>>>>>>>> refused to >>>>>>>>>>>> violate a criminal statute. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It may be difficult for Gamberale to get anyone to trust him >>>>>>>>>>>> now, but if he had continued it would have impossible for him to >>>>>>>>>>>> get the >>>>>>>>>>>> police to believe him, which is a far worse predicament. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is real life. You cannot go around trying to sell >>>>>>>>>>>> non-working machines for millions of dollars. People who have >>>>>>>>>>>> millions of >>>>>>>>>>>> dollars will definitely go to the authorities when they find out >>>>>>>>>>>> you have >>>>>>>>>>>> robbed them. This is not like selling fake Rolex watches from a >>>>>>>>>>>> suitcase on >>>>>>>>>>>> Broadway. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
