Bob and Jones--
Note my recent comment about magnetic fields and the DDL state based on comments on the Kim rejection and other related comments of the Los Alamos commenters. Bob Cook Sent from Windows Mail From: Jones Beene Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 9:12 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Bob, I agree that it is too early to draw conclusions about the magnetic field increase, since it should be easy to document that - if true - and this has not been done. The near-field problem is on stronger ground. I think it would prevent two DDDL from fusing but perhaps it would benefit the fusion of one DDDL and one regular deuteron. That is an option. However, I am placing a lot of emphasis – maybe too much, on Mizuno’s recent work, where there should have been helium, if there was any fusion - but no helium was seen. He may come out and disavow this. Mizuno expected helium, and says as much – and had reported helium before – so it was not easy from him to essentially say that there is none in this experiment. And yes – I have no problem writing off all of Ed Storms 18 prior indications of helium as measurement error since this is such a difficult measurement to make and none of them came close to the energy level of Mizuno. If Mizuno’s hero experiment - which produced over 600 percent more excess energy than the best prior experiment in deuterium fusion, which is over the prior 24 years - shows no helium then that is enough for me to believe that yes … all 18 of the previous were measurement error – because a few of them were Mizuno’s own work. From: Bob Higgins I think you may be mis-identifying the effects of the magnetic field in a DDL atom. By the same token that the interior magnetic field would increase as the electron orbital radius shrinks, the external magnetic field shrinks as r^-3 as r gets bigger. Thus, at the normal atomic radius, the magnetic field will be largely the same for a DDL as a normal ground state hydrogen. When it comes to affecting the approach of two DDL atoms, the magnetic field dipole would cause the two atoms to align N pole to S pole and may cause them to bind! Further, and I would have to think about this more carefully, if the interior magnetic field is increased, it may increase the coupling between the nucleus and the electron - could that possibly allow energy exchange between the electron and the nucleus? Could the enhanced magnetic field attraction help initiate a cold fusion? I certainly don't think the possibility of fusion is dead. I absolutely do NOT discount helium formation in deuterium LENR. The Arata work shows 4He forming in a clean deuterium gas LENR cell using zirconia - Pd nanopowders. To get measurable 4He you need significant D-D fusion to have occurred. DDL without fusion cannot explain this. That doesn't mean that other DDL effects may not be occurring and these may be used just as we use other chemical energy. Of course, this is exactly what Mills is trying to leverage. Getting 100x or 1000x over existing chemical reactions would be hugely beneficial. However, LENR at 1,000,000x would be even better. Bob Higgins P.S.: Terry, Thank you for posting Vavra's presentation. On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: Sooner or later, CMNS will also pick up on a most important factoid about the DDL – which has been mentioned here many times – which is its increased magnetic field intensity (and its negative near field – which actually prohibits nuclear fusion) – but who needs fusion !?! Answer: no one needs fusion for LENR and “cold fusion” is dead. We have a ready-made source of energy in DDL without fusion! As to whether this source is real nuclear energy - is not of greatest concern for the immediate future. We have identified what is likely to be the proximate cause of LENR and it will not long until this is tied (most likely through nanomagnetism and spin coupling) to the ultimate cause. The magnetic field of an atom of hydrogen or deuterium, based on the single electron, when aligned in a fixed vector is 12.5 T at the circumference of the atom. On shrinkage from approximately 50 pm to .1 pm in radius, the DDL has an increased magnetic field of 500^2 or a factor of 250,000 times greater field intensity. The electric near field would be a similar increase. That is too much to overcome for actual fusion, but again – we do not need fusion since the energy from the DDL state is thousands of times greater than chemical. Jones
