> In a message of 01-Nov-99 Sealey, M. wrote:
> 
> > > Following the last instruction in the installation script, it even
> > > says to do a flush avail.
> 
> > Which is in NO WAY guaranteed to work. There is no written word
> > ANYWHERE that says an Avail Flush command will flush *ALL* 
> > libraries from memory.
> 
> Well, according to the AmigaDOS Manual, then an "Avail flush" 
> will indeed "cause all unused libraries and devices to be
> expunged from memory". So, if you know what you are doing it
> should be sufficient.

Chances are that something is still using vapor_toolkit.library,
and if it *isn't* unused then it won't get expunged. Simple as
that.

As I said, there is nothing anywhere that says that an avail
flush will flush *all* libraries from memory ;)

> > It's ***OBVIOUS*** that you should reboot. It's the 
> > ****ONLY**** way to ensure that all libraries are
> > flushed from memory.
> 
> Yes, but very often not necessary if you know what you are doing.

And it seems like Martin ****OBVIOUSLY**** doesn't, or he would
have rebooted long ago. I hate this stupid 'its not windows'
attitude. Even Unix servers need rebooting sometimes. Even
Amigas need rebooting (hmm.. say if you needed to install
a patch before SetPatch - how do you do *THAT* without rebooting?)

> doesn't work, then close all MUI applications and flush; and 4) if new
> Voyager still doesn't work, then reboot.  If this still doesn't solve
> the problem, then it is perhaps time to start complaining on the 
> mailing list, but certainly not before.

Dead right.

TBH I'm getting sick and tired of this. You'd think all the common
sense drained out of the community years ago with the amount of
blatantly inane questions I see around here.

Sure, I can fully appreciate things like 'the installer crashes!'
(it did here anyway!) and 'oh no, this website explodes!' but
when it comes to 'waa! Voyager doesn't work because I refuse to
reboot out of principle' just puts me in a mood.

-- 
Matt Sealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester
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