Don,

   On Tue, May 23, 2000, at 10:44 AM, you wrote:

> 
> On 23-May-00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I really love voyager, but I must admit, the Javascript problems are
> > driving me up the wall.
> > 
> > So much so, that I am seriously thinking of ditching my Amiga and
> > buying a PC or Mac.
> 
> It's not all sweetness and light. Five minutes ago, Internet Explorer
> crashed on a Java applet.
> 
> Regards
> -- 
> Don Cox
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   I appreciate your jumping in and trying to commiserate, but you
goofed, unintentionally, but importantly.  Javascript and JAVA applets
are not the same.  Perhaps the tiny history would be good now.  Please
do not take this as a "putdown" because I once made the same mistake. 
It is to make sure we are all talking about the same thing.

   Javascript.  A scripting, interpreted language developed by Netscape
to allow manipulation of information from browsers to Web sites and
back, again.  Its original name was "Livescript."  Netscape changed the
name to "Javascript" once JAVA started to become well known.  Hence, the
cause for confusing the two.  Another bit of confusion is that
javascript can now be compiled, also.

   JAVA.  A language developed by Sun Microsystems which allows dis-
similar files and programs to work with each other across the Internet,
through file sharing -- in much the same way that Rexx allows the same
within a computer system (Mac OS, AmigaOS, OS/2, IBM mainframe and minis
all allow a form of Rexx, which was developed by IBM.  In fact, files
can be used between operating systems through Rexx ports.).  JAVA origin-
ally was named "Oak," for the purpose of being the OS for handheld com-
puters.  The files created for it are small (few lines of coding) appli-
cations, called "applets."  It was also only a compiled language.  Re-
cently, interpreters for JAVA have been developed.  Hence, confusion.

   The final confusion is that each can be made to activate the other. 
Makes you want to attach pillows on the walls so you will only hit your
head against something soft!

   Back to the browsers.  Voyager, IBrowse and AWeb all allow javascript,
but none, at the moment are JAVA enabled.  Internet Explorer and
Communicator, OT other H, can now deal with JAVA applets, as well as
javascript.  The problems we (V2.xx - V3+) are having are related to
javascript, not JAVA.  I know that, sometimes even Navigator/Communicator
and Internet Explorer have some difficulties with javascript, but not as
much as V3.

   The question to you is, "What have you experienced with browsers and
javascript which can shed some light on this?"

   Again, none of this was meant as a "putdown," only as a means of
clarification.

   'til next time.

                                         Julian.





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