Hello Rob
 on Thursday, 20-Jul-00 you wrote: 

> 
> At 02:56 20/07/2000 -0400, Julian wrote:
> 
> 
>>    V crashes, taking a harddrive with it and causing validation errors:
>> As stated in a past thread, V 3.2 seems to have a bug which causes it to
>> disrupt the I/O process of the disk drive which has the Cache directory,
>> used by V.
> 
> You're *still* missing the point here. V *doesn't* have a bug that does
> that. It's a problem with the operating system/filesystem. If any program
> causes the system to crash while the hard disk is being written to using
> traditional filesystems, that partition is going to become invalidated.
> That's what invalidated means - that after modifying some data on the
> disk, the filesystem didn't get an opportunity to update the bitmap (and
> the disk being invalidated means the data and bitmap don't match).

I disagree strongly. V has a bug that causes it to crash the OS while writing a
file. The OS also has a bug which causes it to unvalidate a drive if the
drive is being written when the OS crashes. Yes there is a minor problem
with the OS, but there is a major problem in V.

If any program crashes the OS while writing a file to the disk, thats a
serious bug, wether or not the OS has a bug too..    

> 
> It's probably just the case that Voyager either a) writes to the disk more
> than other apps, for probably perfectly sensible reasons or b) it crashes
> more. But in itself it isn't causing the invalidation of the disk.

This is technically true, but still so wrong. Your dismissal of a serious 
bug as " it crashes more." is a denial of reality.   

> But that's the whole point of the validation process. 99% of the time,
> assuming you've got a disk that's in a reasonable state in the first
> place, it should validate. If the Amiga is doing other things while it's
> trying to validate the disk, then that can seriously slow it down and
> cause it to take a VERY long time to validate. However, it won't stop it
> validating, since the partition is read-only whilst it's being validated,
> so other apps aren't able to modify the contents. There are plenty of ways
> to put your Amiga's bootup on hold until it's finished validating - there
> are lots of utilities on Aminet that'll do it for you, for a start....

Regards 
Bob 
Amiga Afficionado and Rocket Scientist
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