That sounds good to me. Let's see what the others on the team have to say. Will we have to try to find ASF members who would be willing to provide oversight, or will they be assigned by the board?

Thanks for the support, ant.


Vinayak



On 10/30/13 12:53 PM, ant elder wrote:
Yes its no good at all.

What i think we should do is try for becoming a probationary TLP. A
pTLP is a relatively new concept at the ASF where a podling becomes
its own self governing TLP with a few other ASF members and/or board
members providing some oversight for a trial period until then become
a fully fledged TLP. Its an alternative to incubating.

The next board meeting is in 3 weeks, Wed 19th of November, so it
couldn't happen till then. We'd discuss it with the board now and get
it added to the agenda.

Its a further 3 week delay but this approach would mean after then
you'd then be fully self governing and could do what you like with out
all the Incubator delays and obstructions.

What do you say, if that sounds agreeable i'll start it happening.

    ...ant



On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Vinayak Borkar <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi ant,

I think this project is in trouble. I do not feel comfortable the way things
are going with respect to this release and in the bigger picture, the way
the incubation process works. Its been close to a week since the legal JIRA
got the go-ahead, but there has been no vote yet on the release. Please
advise as to what we should do to push this process along.

Thanks,
Vinayak



On 10/24/13 1:00 PM, ant elder wrote:

Sorry i've been a bit distracted by a sick child (nothing serious), i've
just asked for legal affairs to close the jira, hopefully that will happen
quickly.

     ...ant


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Vinayak Borkar <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi ant,

Thanks for pushing on this. Its been a few days and there seems to be no
movement on any public lists. What should be our next step to get the one
last vote to make the release happen?

Thanks,
Vinayak



On 10/22/13 2:04 AM, ant elder wrote:

Its fine as it is, the text that is already included in the LICENSE file
satisfies the attribution requirements. Requiring text in the NOTICE
file
is only for very particular purposes so is not normally required, this
was
clarified in LEGAL-62 and the legal-discuss@ discussion around that
JIRA.

The DBLP README you point to also is clear about what they want -

"a simple note refering to DBLP and/or a link back to DBLP's website is
sufficient"

Which is exactly what the VXQuery LICENSE file has.

Lets wait just a short while longer and then i'll get the JIRA close and
ping back on general@ to see if the release can now get another +1 vote.

      ...ant


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Till <[email protected]> wrote:

   After Craig's and Chris' +1 on the JIRA, I think that we are down to
the

questions
1) if we only need the license in the LICENSE file (as in the current
RC)
or if
we also need an entry in the NOTICE file and
2) if 4.2c and d of the http://opendatacommons.org/**

licenses/by/1.0/require<http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/1.0/require>us

to also put
http://dblp.uni-trier.de/xml/**README.txt<http://dblp.uni-trier.de/xml/README.txt>into
the distribution.


What do you think?

Thanks,
Till

   Vinayak Borkar <[email protected]

hat am 21. Oktober 2013 um 18:58 geschrieben:


Thanks ant. What is the next step to get the final vote? Should we
send
another email to general@?


On 10/20/13 2:49 PM, ant elder wrote:

Yes to all those. Well ok I'm not sure if its usual, but its
certainly


   possible, and it should address Dave's concerns and even if it it

doesn't i


   think it should be enough to get a +1 from some other Incubator PMC

member
which is all thats really needed.

       ...ant


On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected]

wrote:


   Hi Ant,



   Seeing your comments on the JIRA I'm wondering if it is
possible/usual

to


   close legal JIRA's by lazy consensus. And, if so, do you think that
this

would address Dave's concern?

Thanks,
Till

   On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:43, Till <[email protected]> wrote:


Yes, those assumptions are right.


   Marvin already added some nice and detailed comments on the license
and


the use

of the database in VXQuery to the JIRA issue.


   I've just added another comment stressing that modification of
database


hasn't

happened and most likely won't happen.

Thanks,
Till

      Jochen Wiedmann <[email protected]


hat am 16. Oktober 2013


um 14:35 geschrieben:




     Thanks for the notification. And well done!


      I understand that "database" to be basically an XML file. And we
are

     distributing this
     - unmodified
     - and as a part of the source release only

     Are these assumptions right? If so, I propose to note this on
the

issue.



     Thanks,

     Jochen



     On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Till Westmann <
[email protected]


   wrote:



     > Hi,
     >
     > just fyi, I've asked


https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/LEGAL-182to<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-182to>


      > find out if we can release the DBLP database as part of our

release.
     >
     > Cheers,
     > Till




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     "That's what prayers are ... it's frightened people trying to
make

friends


     with the bully!"


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