On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:43 AM, ant elder <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, but I don't think VXQuery should accept this approach (yet) but > should hold out for something better.
Sorry, VXQuery community. I did not expect this level of disagreement to arise between your Mentors, though I certainly anticipated that the proposal might not go through for any number of reasons. The "Plan B" of addressing the matter in the absence of a structured framework would ordinarily have been "Plan A", and the analysis and suggestions from the "Transparency" and "State of the release" threads[1][2] stand on their own. Everything I had to say elsewhere about graduation and the current collective Apache-fu of the PPMC needed to be said regardless. Ant and I both care very deeply about the challenges that podlings like VXQuery have faced. Perhaps our exchange gives you insight into your experiences over the last four years. The Incubator is an attempt to solve hard problems in project governance. It has many strengths but remains quite imperfect. > This is disempowering at a point where we should be impowering VXQuery > members. I vehemently dispute that the proposal is disempowering. It is precisely the opposite. I will explain the argument on general@incubator. Marvin Humphrey [1] http://s.apache.org/LUi [2] http://s.apache.org/ZtG
