I fully understand (though have not yet fully embraced) the aesthetics of fine 
flyfishing.  Part of it is that I've been hunting steelies with a fly for 6 
going on 7 years now with nary a touch (well maybe one touch - but that might 
have been a salmon).  The other part is that while I'm in my mid-forties, I've 
only recently reacquainted myself with flyfishing - started when I was 16, but 
got out of it when I went into the military at 18, and didn't get back into it 
but about 10 years ago - so from that aspect, I'm more like a kid in my late 
20's - still young, dumb and full of ....

Aesthetics and love for the sport continue to take a larger part in my 
flyfishing life than just catching fish.  Once I land a couple of steelies, I 
know I'll settle down even more.  I've certainly embraced C&R, and have gotten 
over the need for large fish to bring me pleasure.  Nothing pleases me more now 
than to go after little trout with little flies and a little rod.

But for now my idea of "vulgar" is pretty narrow, and I expect it to broaden as 
my experiences increase.  I hope to share your love for a greased dry line and 
a low-profile steelhead fly.  I also hope there's enough fish left in the river 
long enough to attain that love for such aesthetics.

Sean

BTW, this Saturday I'm headed up to the NF Sky to drown large nymphs under a 
bobber in the pocket water to see if I can dredge up my first steelhead.  Gotta 
put my time in....

-----Original Message-----
From: Leland Miyawaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jun 7, 2005 8:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Deschutes River report

There is no line Sean. Flyfishing is a personal sport and we only do 
what pleases us.

I have been flyfishing for almost 40 years now and have very personal 
preferences. For instance, I would rather catch trout on a dry fly or 
not at all. I would rather catch salmon and searun cutthroat on my 
surface poppers. I prefer grease-lining elegant low-water flies on a 
dryline to summer steelhead. I've fished every way else and have 
caught fish doing it. I don't know how old you are or how many years 
you've flyfished but one day you'll come to enjoy the process as much 
or even more than the catching.

Leland.



>Some would say a nymph under a bobber is vulgar.  When I was in NZ, 
>the guide I was with offered this English chap a recommendation to 
>use a nymph under a yarn indicator since the trout were ignoring his 
>dry fly offers.  He sniffed: "I didn't travel all the way across the 
>pond to fish for trout with a NYMPH".  I happily took the guides 
>suggestion and hooked and landed a beautiful 6 lb. Loch Levan buck. 
>I've been an indicator fisherman ever since.
>
>One man's vulgarity is another man's mainstay.
>
>Where does one draw the line, Leland?
>
>Sean
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: C & S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jun 6, 2005 6:25 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Deschutes River report
>
>Sure, but what would you do if you saw another angler hooking up on
>steelhead with your popper?
>Chester
>
>>From: Leland Miyawaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: Deschutes River report
>>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:01:21 -0700
>>
>>Last year, I gave my popper talk to the Kelly Creek Fly Fishers in Lewiston
>>and someone asked if I thought my popper would work as a waker for
>>steelhead. I told him that I have too much love and respect for steelhead
>>to not fish a "traditional" swinging fly and that my popper was much too
>>vulgar.
>>
>>Leland.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Leland is right about this.
>>>I've spent a lot of time on the Deschutes, and those jetboats on the lower
>>>river are a pain, and they wreck runs for fishing.
>>>I much prefer fishing steelhead later in the year, when the fish have
>>>moved up past Maupin. The fish are NOT chrome bright, but few Deschutes
>>>steelhead ever are. But October fish in the upper river are strong,
>>>aggressive biters, and you'll have good water to yourself. The fish also
>>>like waking flies.
>>>Leland, I wonder if your popper would provoke a strike from a Deschutes
>>>fish?
>>>Chester Allen


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