RE: Center that counts

[Keith Bell]

Title: Message

Give me a break!   Keith From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of snedeker Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:50 PM To: waflyfishers@waflyfishers.com Subject: Re: Center that counts Really Mr Williams, its entirely inappropriate to even notice that the R-------------- party has been hijacked by a bunch of corrupt r----- -wing d--- bags, much less mention the environmental damage and deficits they want to inflict on my grandchildren,  in a non-partisan group such as this. And for future reference lets not mention the mismanaged war started on a lie, or any of the indictments for thievery, espionage, war profiteering, or any of the wasted lives destroyed in one of the countries that start with the letter I. None of these things are to be mentioned. Keep em to yourself. And I shall cross my toes, close my eyes, and wish hard three times and they will all have never happened and then its you, me and Toto back to Kansas.   Dave Snedeker Who remembers when Conservation and R------------ were almost synonymous   ----- Original Message ----- From: David Weitl To: waflyfishers@waflyfishers.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 2:54 PM Subject: RE: Center that counts Please, can we keep this about fly fishing and leave the political jabs out of this forum? I’m sure there are hundreds of great boards to post your rants and raves about those from the left and those from the right.   Around here we should keep our comments limited to those that fish the dry vs. those that turn to the dark side and fish the nymph!   - Dave   David Weitl Northwest Realty Advisors, Inc. 3380 NE Rova Road Poulsbo, WA  98370 (206) 930-0599 (360) 779-1467 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED]   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Paul Williams Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:27 AM To: waflyfishers@waflyfishers.com Subject: RE: Center that counts   I can see why it was really important to save that budget money when we need all the money the federal government can get after the Republican Congress cut taxes for the super rich.   David Williams The Williams Lawfirm 425.990.8800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Hall Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:18 AM To: waflyfishers@waflyfishers.com Subject: Center that counts This was in the Times today.  I guess the reasoning is: if there are no counters, then there is no data, then there is no problem.       Pacific Northwest Center that counts fish loses funding U.S. Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, has eliminated a little-known agency that counts endangered fish in the Columbia River. The Fish Passage Center, with 12 employees and a budget of $1.3 million, has been killed because it did not count fish in a way that suited Craig. "Data cloaked in advocacy create confusion," Craig said on the Senate floor this month, after successfully inserting language in an energy and water appropriations bill that bans all future funding for the Fish Passage Center. Michele DeHart, a fish biologist who is the longtime manager of the center, said she is not mad at Craig. "What's the point?" asked DeHart, 55, who for nearly 20 years has run the agency that keeps score on the survival of endangered salmon as they negotiate federal dams in the Columbia and Snake rivers. The center has documented, in statistical detail, how the Columbia-Snake hydroelectric system kills salmon. Its analyses of fish-survival data also suggests that one way to increase salmon survival is to spill more water over dams rather than feed it through electrical turbines. That suggestion, though, is anathema to utilities — and to Craig — because water poured over dams means millions of dollars in lost electricity generation.