Heh , hang on there ... that is not entirely correct !

Quicksilver Mac , OSX 10.4.8 , Firefox 1.5.10 lets me view that site complete with fixtures and ladder
at
<http://afl.com.au/Season2007/Ladder/tabid/74/Default.aspx>

<http://afl.com.au/Season2007/FixturesResults/ 2007ToyotaAFLPremiershipSeasonFixture/tabid/8543/Default.aspx>


Just tried it .

IF you are on 10.4.9 you might have trouble , there is something different in that OS version, otherwise you may need to check the version of Javascript you have installed and make sure it is turned on.

The only other thing I can think of is whether the ISP has something to do with the problem


Bob






On 03/05/2007, at 9:02 AM, Mike MOORE wrote:

Now you can't even access the ladder or fixtures if you are on a Mac. They never load.

I have given up and switched to sourcing my information from the Foxtel AFL website. http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl

The other reasonable options option is the Real Footy website: http://www.realfooty.com.au/


Unless lots of people complain to AH Demetriou then not much will change on the official AFL website.


On 03/05/2007, at 8:12 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

On 02/05/2007, at 11:27 PM, Mike MOORE wrote:
I complained and this was the reply I received:

  Thank you for your email dated 08 Apr

The problem you have described is a known issue and has recently been escalated to our level 2 support group. Our technicians will investigate the issue and take appropriate action to resolve the problem.

However, we have tested the site thru Fire Fox, which loads the data normally. You may wish to try accessing AFL.com.au thru Fire Fox. Please note that Fire Fox is not Supported. This information is provided as a courtesy only.

Once again, our sincere apologies and please let us know if you are having further problems.


Nothing has happened (surprise, surprise) The only way we are likely to get it fixed is to complain direct to the AFL commission.

Hi WAMUG people,

Back in 2002 a lot of people (including me) wrote letters to the ACCC & the AFL Commission re Telstra's exclusive agreement with the AFL. I had a Paid Subscription to view multimedia content, replays etc. and then found I could not continue unless I became a BigPond ADSL customer.
http://www.katelundy.com.au/April2002.htm

I've included below a letter that Galen Parker wrote to Senator Lundy, and below his letter is the ACCC Response:

Quoted Letters:
Good Afternoon Senator Lundy,

My name is Galen Parker, and I am emailing in a desperate attempt to seek information on what types of action I as a regular West Australian guy can take against Telstra’s exclusive multimedia content on the internet.

I am a fanatical AFL fan, who frequents the website of my club, the West Coast Eagles, and the main AFL website (afl.com.au) to get news and information about the game I love. I may frequent these sites perhaps 5-10 times a day to get the very latest reports.

In previous years I have happily paid an AFL.COM.AU subscription to view multimedia content, match replays, audio media releases and other content that broadband internet can provide these days!

I am a software developer by profession, and thus a heavy internet user. I have cutting edge technology which includes a 1.5Mbit ADSL connection and happily subscribe to a local West Australian owned ISP, iiNET, who I feel have GREAT service and the best product range.

When my subscription to afl.com.au expired in 2004 I was amazed to find I could not renew my subscription due to the new AFL Exclusivity deal with Telstra. I could not believe the ONLY options I had were to either leave the country, (because the multimedia content is allowed to be viewed by international subscribers) OR join a far inferior ISP… Telstra Bigpond.

Of the above options, moving out of the country is more feasible due to the heavy requirements on internet usage in my profession, and Telstra being FAR inferior in product range, service and pricing. Is this fair for a company to twist the arms of consumers to purchase inferior services?

I have attempted to contact the AFL and Telstra on this issue to no avail. I emailed a senior person at the West Coast eagles asking what they feel about the situation and was refreshed to find out that due to sponsorship deals with competitors like Optus the Eagles were not happy at all with the deal.

The new AFL 2005 season is about to start and still there is no options or progress on this appalling situation. The ‘new look’ afl.com.au website is branded with Telstra advertising, promotions and marketing. All contacts on the site go to Telstra and not the AFL, so it’s a very frustrating situation because I do not know what I can do to voice my concerns

This article from 2002 has been the reason I decided to contact you for information.
http://whirlpool.net.au/article.cfm?id=939&show=all

Kind Regards
Galen Parker
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The ACCC Response:
Telstra has an exclusive agreement with the AFL to manage the AFL website and to provide video streaming of premium content, such as coverage of AFL matches. Until recently, this premium content was available on a subscription basis irrespective of which ISP provided internet services to the particular subscriber.

The ACCC is aware that Telstra has recently restricted access to this premium AFL content to BigPond subscribers. Overseas subscribers will continue to be able to access the premium content on a subscription basis even though they obtain internet access through an ISP other than BigPond.

The ACCC has held discussions with Telstra and the AFL in relation to this exclusive arrangement. On close examination of the circumstances, the ACCC is of the view that Telstra and the AFL are entitled to enter into their exclusive arrangement and that Telstra's requirement that subscribers obtain internet access services from BigPond is not likely to constitute a breach of the TPA. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------
End of Quoted letters.

As you can see, nothing has changed since 2002!!

Cheers,
Ronni

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