Hi Peter,

If you have a lot of old emails in Entourage, it might be worth checking out
Entourage Email Archive X <http://www.softhing.com/eeax.html> if you want to
archive your old Entourage emails prior to starting the brave new world of
Mail.

I have been looking at this to archive my many years of emails in Entourage
- however, I haven't actually tried it yet - so I can't report how good (or
bad) it is!

The developer seems to have a few applications/utilities relating to
Entourage and how to get info out of it:
<http://www.softhing.com/home.html>

I don't know if any other WAMUG list members have any experience of any of
these?



Cheers



Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com


on 4/2/10 8:44 AM, Crisp, Peter at pcr...@hatch.com.au wrote:

> 
> Hi folks, I have undertaken a few tests with my father Severin and am
> now happy that Mail/iCal/Calendar will give me all I want and at the
> same time solve the back-up issues that Entourage was causing. It seems
> all the info that you have all relayed to me have answered all my
> queries and it is the better technical solution and has no downsides. It
> will of course take a little time to get used to the different 'look' of
> the apps, but this will be minor in the whole scheme of things. The main
> influencing factor for me is how Mail treats each separate incoming
> email in isolation (and hence the backup ramification is far simpler) as
> opposed to a revision to a monolithic database.
> 
> So there!
> 
> Thanks to you all for help in putting me at ease.
> 
> I intend to do the migration over this weekend time permitting and then
> shortly after move all my historical emails/Contacts out of Outlook to
> Mail/Contacts respectively.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Peter...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
> Behalf Of Peter Hinchliffe
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 8:33 AM
> To: WAMUG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Entourage bug
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/02/2010, at 11:18 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote:
> 
>> I wondered how long it would take for someone to suggest this
> "solution" - thanks John for raising this one. Having come from a
> Windows background, I find it hard to move to a program (Mail) that
> doesn't have Contacts and Calendar functions integrated into the one
> app. Mail is just one part of daily activity and within Entourage (like
> MS Outlook) it is a nice integrated look and feel, not to mention
> logical, to have Mail/Calendar/Contacts integrated into one app.
>>  
>> Can Mail/iCal/Contacts be managed in the same way?
>>  
>> I am not 100% settled on Entourage and prepared to consider
> Mail/iCal/Contacts but it seems retrograde to use 3 apps for what one
> app can manage albeit with this bug. Maybe Microsoft will arrange a fix
> for this or maybe I'll use the noted work-around (a la Time Machine
> Scheduler) for the temporary "solution" to my problem.
>>  
> 
> It really makes no difference to the user experience whether Mail,
> Calendar and Contacts are all in the one  entity or three separate
> applications. The Mail experience certainly proves this with its use the
> Data Detector. Mail interacts with Address Book directly, and Data
> Detectors allow you to add dates and events directly to your iCal
> calendars, and even interact with Google Maps. It all happens
> seamlessly. 
> 
> What does matter is that Address Book and iCal data are system-wide, and
> therefore available to other software if the author chooses (Bento being
> one obvious example). This is difficult if not impossible with closed
> systems like Entourage. You'll have to duplicate your contacts in
> Address Book anyway to get access to this system-wide functionality.
> Microsoft software still retains it's own little ecosystem within Mac OS
> X (even down to the clipboard), and does not really sit well with modern
> Mac software.   
> 
> --
> 
> Peter Hinchliffe        Apwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 064 948
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
> 
> 
 

-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com




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