Thanks Neil, I have so few emails to manage from my Entourage account having only used it for the last month from new, I will manage those in a 'sledgehammer' way I suspect.
I will probably download the O2M program as recommended by Ronni which handles Outlook to Mail and Entourage to Mail as well I think. If O2M can't do the Entourage to Mail conversion, I will pull out my hammer to bash them over there. There might be 30 emails at most falling into this category. Regards Peter... Original Message----- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Neil Houghton Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2010 11:16 AM To: WAMUG Subject: Re: Entourage bug Hi Peter, If you have a lot of old emails in Entourage, it might be worth checking out Entourage Email Archive X <http://www.softhing.com/eeax.html> if you want to archive your old Entourage emails prior to starting the brave new world of Mail. I have been looking at this to archive my many years of emails in Entourage - however, I haven't actually tried it yet - so I can't report how good (or bad) it is! The developer seems to have a few applications/utilities relating to Entourage and how to get info out of it: <http://www.softhing.com/home.html> I don't know if any other WAMUG list members have any experience of any of these? Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 4/2/10 8:44 AM, Crisp, Peter at pcr...@hatch.com.au wrote: > > Hi folks, I have undertaken a few tests with my father Severin and am > now happy that Mail/iCal/Calendar will give me all I want and at the > same time solve the back-up issues that Entourage was causing. It seems > all the info that you have all relayed to me have answered all my > queries and it is the better technical solution and has no downsides. It > will of course take a little time to get used to the different 'look' of > the apps, but this will be minor in the whole scheme of things. The main > influencing factor for me is how Mail treats each separate incoming > email in isolation (and hence the backup ramification is far simpler) as > opposed to a revision to a monolithic database. > > So there! > > Thanks to you all for help in putting me at ease. > > I intend to do the migration over this weekend time permitting and then > shortly after move all my historical emails/Contacts out of Outlook to > Mail/Contacts respectively. > > Regards > > Peter... > > -----Original Message----- > From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On > Behalf Of Peter Hinchliffe > Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 8:33 AM > To: WAMUG Mailing List > Subject: Re: Entourage bug > > > > On 02/02/2010, at 11:18 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote: > >> I wondered how long it would take for someone to suggest this > "solution" - thanks John for raising this one. Having come from a > Windows background, I find it hard to move to a program (Mail) that > doesn't have Contacts and Calendar functions integrated into the one > app. Mail is just one part of daily activity and within Entourage (like > MS Outlook) it is a nice integrated look and feel, not to mention > logical, to have Mail/Calendar/Contacts integrated into one app. >> >> Can Mail/iCal/Contacts be managed in the same way? >> >> I am not 100% settled on Entourage and prepared to consider > Mail/iCal/Contacts but it seems retrograde to use 3 apps for what one > app can manage albeit with this bug. Maybe Microsoft will arrange a fix > for this or maybe I'll use the noted work-around (a la Time Machine > Scheduler) for the temporary "solution" to my problem. >> > > It really makes no difference to the user experience whether Mail, > Calendar and Contacts are all in the one entity or three separate > applications. The Mail experience certainly proves this with its use the > Data Detector. Mail interacts with Address Book directly, and Data > Detectors allow you to add dates and events directly to your iCal > calendars, and even interact with Google Maps. It all happens > seamlessly. > > What does matter is that Address Book and iCal data are system-wide, and > therefore available to other software if the author chooses (Bento being > one obvious example). This is difficult if not impossible with closed > systems like Entourage. You'll have to duplicate your contacts in > Address Book anyway to get access to this system-wide functionality. > Microsoft software still retains it's own little ecosystem within Mac OS > X (even down to the clipboard), and does not really sit well with modern > Mac software. > > -- > > Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services > FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer > Perth, Western Australia > Phone (618) 9332 6482 Mob 0403 064 948 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. > > -- Neil R. 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