Thankyou Ronni Shayne and Paul I think many of us would now have a greater 
understanding  of some issues surrounding 1Password etc.  See you tomorrow.
Cheers
John

On 11/12/2010, at 8:26 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hello Paul,
> 
> I was shocked and disappointed with your 'knee-jerk' reaction to Shayne's 
> accurate and factual reply.
> 
> Shayne did not have to take the time to reply to WAMUG list and possibly 
> diffuse a panic that your reply might have given people who don't understand 
> security issues.
> 
> A little research on your part before replying, to find out just how secure 
> 1Password is and also what Little Snitch does & doesn't do (& how to 
> understand, use & control Little Snitch), would have been more appropriate.
> 
> 1Password uses 128-bit keys for encryption, which means that it would take 
> millions of years for a criminal to decrypt your data using a brute force 
> attack.
> Your data is encrypted using AES, the same state-of-the-art encryption 
> algorithm used as the national standard in the United States. 
> 
> <http://help.agile.ws/1Password3/agile_keychain_design.html>
> 
> The Agile Web Solutions developers are working on a new release of 1Password  
> (1Password 4). Their arm is to make 1Password as easy as possible to securely 
> and reliably sync 1Password data.
> 
> Ronni
> 
> On 10/12/2010, at 11:06 PM, S Beach wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul
>> 
>> I appreciate and respect your caution, particularly in relation to matters 
>> of personal security. My response was not intended to be critical; if 
>> anything a little lighthearted.
>> I simply wanted to make the point that the response from Agile support was a 
>> fair and reasonable explanation and response to his concerns.
>> I thought that your "very disturbing" comment was a bit unfair however I now 
>> notice that your email was actually before John's second email so you were 
>> commenting without the benefit of seeing the explanation given by the 
>> support person.
>> 
>> I apologise if my response seemed harsh or offensive.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Shayne
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Paul Weaver <pwea...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> Well then, good luck to you.  PW.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "S Beach" <sbscr...@gmail.com>
>> To: "WAMUG Mailing List" <wamug@wamug.org.au>
>> Sent: Friday, 10 December, 2010 8:06:41 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / 
>> Hong Kong / Urumqi
>> Subject: Re: 1Password
>> 
>> Don't panic Mr Mannering! (Nods to the old "Dad's Army" series of yesteryear)
>> 
>> Actually Paul it is not disturbing really. The second reply that John got 
>> from Agile support is a reasonable explanation of why he is getting warning 
>> messages from Little Snitch. It is simply advising him what the 
>> 1PasswordThumbs process is doing. And the response from support gives a 
>> logical explanation of why the process is doing it. 
>> 
>> As they say:
>> "This thumbnail capability can be turned off in 1Password's Preferences, but 
>> it's perfectly expected that 1PasswordAgent will "get the attention" of 
>> Little Snitch. Because the sites it wants to access are the same ones (and 
>> just as varied) as you use in your browser, it's simplest to tell Little 
>> Snitch to always "Allow any connections", otherwise you'll be prompted for 
>> each one (your choice of course!)."
>> 
>> Nothing to panic about there.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Shayne Beach
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Paul Weaver <pwea...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> The experience John has reported is very disturbing.  I'm glad I didn't join 
>> the rush.
>> 
>> Paul.
>> 
>> 
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