Hi Peter The Airport Express goes wirelessly, generally somewhere it the middle. It only requires power. Nothing else. It's kinda small. So just plugs in somewhere out of sight. And as mentioned, generally about the middle. IT then extends the same network wirelessly the rest of the way. You can move it around to get the best coverage.
Also, and I forgot to mention this. Sometimes it pays to just flick the Time Capsule off and see if that helps the network strength. I've had a few clients where the signal "has degraded". By simply switching it off then waiting a few minutes then turning it on again it comes back stronger. Had this fix it for a few clients where the signal wasn't as strong. Also, extra height helps. So if it's sitting on the floor or lower down, try raising it up a bit as well. Just a couple of short term fixes sometimes. But yes, re the AE (Airport Express), you don't need to add a couple to it. You find the best location then get the signal working around both units. And all wirelessly. And yes. Sometimes you have to look at the "cost" of these things. If you spend half a day to not get anywhere, is that less cost effective then just grabbing the AE unit at $149 :o) That's how I look at some things. If it's going to take me a day to solve something but can spend a little money to get it done much faster another way, and then I concentrate on what I do best then everyone wins. :o) (If that makes sense,..lol) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel On 3/4/11 12:54 PM, "Peter Crisp" <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > Thanks Ronni, Daniel and others for these elegant solutions outlined here. > This seems much better than the cobbled non-Apple devices I find myself with. > > A further question about the Airport Extreme/Express option. Is the Airport > Extreme/Express connected from the far end of the house to my Time Capsule > with a LAN cable or does it wirelessly connect to the existing wireless > network and then provide the extension from that point? > > If it wirelessly connects then surely it is extending an already degraded > signal and maybe it boosts it back to what it was at the Time Capsule. > > I am inclined to go this way partly because of the results of my work this > morning. > > By some fluke, I was able to configure the Linksys (WAG120N) router by direct > connecting it to my old PC - I set it in accordance with some blogged > information as the manual makes no mention of repeater or extend mode. So I > got it working and it is indeed a 'second network' as opposed to a single > extended network. in any case it works, BUT the transmit rate sitting > alongside the Linksys is LESS than the transmit rate from the Time Capsule up > the other end of the house. > > So I have wasted half a day to go backwards! not the first time though. > > Anyway, I have to understand if I need to extend the LAN cable down to the > back of the house or not to suit the Airport Extreme option. > > Regards > > Peter... > > > On 03/04/2011, at 12:18 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: > >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> Just to reiterate what Daniel has pointed out, it is much easier and less >> problems arise if you keep your ONE Apple Wireless Network (which is a >> Dual-Band wireless network N & b/g, as if I remember correctly you used my >> tutorial 'How to Setup a Simultaneous Dual-Band 802.11N Wi-Fi Network¹) >> And then use an Airport Extreme or an Airport Express to extend your ONE >> Apple wireless Network. >> >> Your Time Capsule Network just needs to have "Extend a Wireless Network² >> selected in Airport Utility - Wireless. >> Click ³Update² after doing this to Restart the Base Station with that >> setting¹. >> >> Then connect an Airport Extreme or Airport Express down at the other end of >> the house (or part way) & set it to ³Extend a Wireless Network². >> >> Some Wi-Fi devices use the 2.4GHz wireless band, including iPhone, iPod >> touch, iPad, and devices using 802.11b/g. >> Other devices can use either 2.4GHz or the higher-speed 5GHz band, such as >> the latest 802.11n-based Mac computers and Apple TV. >> Instead of choosing one of the bands, AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule now >> operates simultaneously on both bands, and your multi-band devices >> automatically use the best available band. >> >> This means all your Wi-Fi devices get the fastest possible wireless >> performance and the best possible range. >> >> I¹ve setup numerous Apple Airport Wireless Dual-Band Networks and extended >> the Network, some to cottages not connected to the Main House (where the Base >> Station is) without any problems. >> >> When you start adding Non Apple Wireless devices, that¹s when you will >> normally experience problems. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> >> On 03/04/2011, at 11:06 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Peter >>> >>> Some router's don't "extend well" with bridge mode. >>> Some things I'd be very wary of, with doing it with another router, unless >>> it allows you to create either a WDS type "master - slave" network or >>> bridges it for you, is to make sure it's keeping your whole network in the >>> same subnet range. >>> What I mean by this is:- >>> Assuming your main network router has the IP Address 192.168.0.1. Then all >>> your connected devices will be in the range 192.168.0.2 through to >>> 192.168.0.255. >>> If you then run a network that bridges it with another wireless unit and it >>> creates things in the IP address lets say 10.1.1.1 and things that connect >>> to it get the IP addresses 10.1.1.2 though to 10.1.1.255 then you're >>> effectively having two networks. >>> This can sometimes create a headache with things like sharing, printer >>> sharing (network printers), Time Machine etc. >>> Because the data can be on "two different networks". (Even though it appears >>> to be one). >>> >>> I always like to keep networks on the same IP set. This makes it easy for >>> all the things mentioned above (file sharing, printer sharing, Time Machine, >>> troubleshooting etc). >>> >>> Personally for easy of use, ease of setup, ease of no headaches you may find >>> it easier just to grab an Airport Express ($149). Plug it in, set it up with >>> the Airport Admin Utility to "extend wireless network". Done. Same wireless >>> network name through the whole house. Same IP address. No mucking around. >>> :o) >>> >>> Hope that helps. >>> >>> Kind Regards >>> Daniel >>> >>> (Who had to correct most of his sentences about 4 times for it to make >>> sense,..it's too early,....) ;o) >>> >>> >>> On 3/4/11 9:31 AM, "Tim Law" <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Peter, >>>> >>>> I have a second wireless router and I'll try to step you through how I did >>>> this. >>>> >>>> I connected the second router via ethernet cable to the network and logged >>>> into it's control panel >>>> Turn OFF the setting that says 'find DNS automatically' this may be 'find >>>> IP >>>> Address automatically' >>>> Set a new IP address as per Rod's suggestion. I think I set the second >>>> router >>>> to 192.168.0.100 >>>> >>>> Then you can turn on the wireless on the second router, set it's password >>>> and >>>> away you go. >>>> >>>> This requires the second router to still be connected to the network via an >>>> ethernet cable, but it given the placement in the house, it extends the >>>> wireless for the kids bedrooms instead of me having to hard wire every >>>> bedroom. Wireless is 'okay', but for reliability, I'd go for hard wire. >>>> >>>> I think your query may be how to set up your new router to receive the >>>> signals wirelessly, and then retransmit. Can't help with that, sorry. >>>> >>>> Some one else might give a more technically correct step by step process. >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 03/04/2011, at 7:45 AM, Peter Crisp wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Rob, thanks for this. Are you able to make the notes more "idiot" proof >>>>> - >>>>> ie step by step connection and configuration process? I googled each of >>>>> the >>>>> acronyms you noted here and now have a basic understanding of what they >>>>> mean >>>>> but I have never been comfortable in getting networks established. Lots of >>>>> trouble in the past for me. >>>>> >>>>> I will have a look at it now and see how I go. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Peter... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 02/04/2011, at 8:27 PM, Rob Davies wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Morning, >>>>>> Cable connecting AP's. >>>>>> WPA2 Personnel Shared Key with AES algorithms same for both AP's. SSID >>>>>> again >>>>>> same for both machines, do not worry about hiding actually slows down >>>>>> network whilst achieving nothing. >>>>>> Different IP address, but on same subnet. i.e 192.168.1.1 and >>>>>> 192.168.1.2 >>>>>> with 255.255.255.0 this you can play to determine how many IP's you >>>>>> require >>>>>> to connect with AP's. >>>>>> http://www.subnet-calculator.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> WDS can be utilised without cable connecting routers, but come with >>>>>> overheads approximately half bandwidth. >>>>>> Very simplified explanation, more information if required. >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> `RobD... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02Apr2011, at 7:40 pm, Peter Crisp wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, I have a house which necessarily has my Time capsule up one end of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> house where the study is located. This makes the wireless signal pretty >>>>>>> weak up the other end and I want to correct this. I happen to have a >>>>>>> surplus and unused Linksys 'N' modem-router bought at a time when I >>>>>>> thought >>>>>>> my existing D-Link modem router was playing up. It turned out my DNS >>>>>>> server >>>>>>> assignments had never been set up but I digress. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope to use the Linksys as an extender by plugging a network cable >>>>>>> into >>>>>>> one of the router ports of the Time Capsule and then down the other end >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> the house into the Linksys unit (router port or phone port not sure) but >>>>>>> more concerning is the set up procedure to get the Linksys working as >>>>>>> another wireless network down the far end of the house. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I presume others have done this and may have some experiences or >>>>>>> comments >>>>>>> about how to do this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I skimmed through the set up instructions and noted a Bridge mode set up >>>>>>> and maybe this is it but generally the manual assumes it is the only >>>>>>> modem/router in the house. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks if anyone has any advice or wisdom on this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peter... >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Unsubscribe - <mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au> >> > > > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Unsubscribe - <mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au> > --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: <daniel @ macwizardry . com . au> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Unsubscribe - <mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au>
