Thanks for the link Pedro,

Egg Freckles has some interesting Notes written on his Newton ;-)
He is a former Mac Genius.
http://eggfreckles.net/tech/lions-lesser-known-features/

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 08/06/2011, at 6:35 PM, Pedro <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Evening all
> 
> I feel your pain Ronni
> 
> I have three machines in this household to update and my Internet in 
> painfully slow thanks to the aging copper wires and the distance I am from 
> the closest exchange
> 
> I wonder if this link will be of any help
> 
> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/07/how-to-burn-a-lion-boot-disc/
> 
> Perhaps some of our Perth members would rent out their super fast ADSL2+ to 
> us poor rural dwellers for a small fee, he he 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> iPadro
> 
> 
> On 07/06/2011, at 8:44 AM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Yes Daniel,
>> 
>> From what I have so far read … I’m NOT happy. 
>> The things I did NOT want to happen, but felt would happen … have happened! 
>> ;-(
>> 
>> Major upgrades direct & only from the App Store is not what I wanted, 
>> especially for some of my clients.
>> Some of my country clients have slow Networks & small download limits. I 
>> often need to download the updates on my connection & place onto an external 
>> drive so I can install for them.
>> 
>> I’ll reserve my final judgement until more information becomes available.
>> 
>> We MobileMe members from dot.mac days have already received emails informing 
>> us of the change to iCloud.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 07/06/2011, at 2:53 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/6/11 1:42 AM, "cm" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>> 
>>>> The following is a cut-and-paste from the Mac Rumuours live coverage of the
>>>> WWDC keynote address which I was silly enough to stay up for. The excerpt 
>>>> is
>>>> best read from bottom to top to follow the time sequence. I'll have an
>>>> espresso thanks. :-D
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Carlo
>>>> 
>>>> 10:38 am Available for everyone else in July
>>>> 10:38 am New dev preview today.
>>>> 10:37 am $29.99
>>>> 10:37 am Buy once. Install on all macs like all Mac app store apps.
>>>> 10:37 am 4Gb
>>>> 10:37 am Lion available only on Mac App Store
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One thing that "annoys" me with this,...and this is just my personal
>>> opinion,...but for people that are on "small" downloads are being penalised.
>>> I know some clients that have 2GB limits.
>>> How are they to get a 4GB download??
>>> And sometimes with it charged at excess rates of 15c/MB that makes the
>>> remainder 2GB of the download costing them about $300 if they don't realise.
>>> As it's purchased through the Mac App Store, then it's not like you "burn it
>>> DVD" for them or something.
>>> 
>>> Maybe I'm missing something here, and more info will become available later.
>>> Sure, maybe for the US where download limits are large and internet is
>>> cheap. But unfortunately we still have some low limits here in Australia.
>>> 
>>> Again, maybe I'm missing something, or I'm not "keeping up with the times"
>>> but I just think there should be a couple of options. For those that don't
>>> realise or unsure about it, doesn't it leave them out of the loop for Lion?
>>> 
>>> I suppose the other problem I see with this, is if you have to download it
>>> is that some clients don't want to do that. They feel more comfortable with
>>> hiring someone to come out and do it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to
>>> sound like I'm complaining about a loss of income or anything. I just know
>>> that for some, they may not feel comfortable in downloading and installing.
>>> They prefer to call me out to do it. I can't now go out and say,..oh, well I
>>> have to sit here for a couple of hours while this downloads.
>>> Sure I could say,..well start it downloading and call me when it's finished
>>> if you have any problems.
>>> I'm guessing that once it's downloaded you can burn the dmg file to install
>>> it, but then you wouldn't be able to do that as a) it wouldn't have been
>>> paid for, for another client and b) wont' give correct "download figures" to
>>> Apple.
>>> Maybe there will be a "pay but don't download" option.
>>> 
>>> I guess time will tell.
>>> Just a couple of things that sprung to mind when I saw it. I mentioned it to
>>> another friend of mine who was online at the time and they said, "oh, guess
>>> I'll have to watch my downloads for that month as I won't have much of my
>>> allowance". So really, they are sort of being penalised in a way.
>>> But, as mentioned, if it can be paid for and not downloaded, that may be a
>>> work around. :o)
>>> 
>>> Oh well,...Im' sure as more info comes out we'll know. :o)
>>> On that note,..time for some sleep I think,..the iCloud info is still
>>> scrolling through MacRumors,...but I'll read the rest in the morning. Have
>>> to be up in 3 hours,..sigh.
>>> 
>>> Some of the iCloud stuff sounds cool. :o)
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Daniel Kerr
>>> MacWizardry
>>> 
>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>> Email: <daniel @ macwizardry . com . au>
>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>> 
>>> 
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