I just wanted to add that new iMacs ship with the option of either a Magic 
Mouse or a Magic Trackpad. So in principle they are alternatives. However, 
someone at the last meeting did tell me that they were using both,  and two 
more purchase radio buttons on the Apple Store allow the user to buy either 
both the Magi Mouse and the Magic Trackpad or a standard Apple mouse and a 
Magic Trackpad -- the latter choice presumably for those who wish to cut down 
on the number of touch surfaces. Some designers I know switched to the Trackpad 
exclusively almost a year ago.

I have no experience myself with the Magic Trackpad as I use my notebook 
exclusively so I will have to leave it to others to answer your usability 
question.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-07-22, at 15:03, Clinton Ducas wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I've been using Lion since Wednesday night on my iMac and so far it is 
> impressive. 
> 
> One question I have for other desktop users is this:
> 
> Is it worth buying a Magic Trackpad to use with Lion for the multi-touch 
> gestures? I have a Magic Mouse at the moment and it works fine, but am 
> considering the purchase of a Magic Trackpad to use in conjunction with the 
> mouse. What are your thoughts?
> 
> Regards, Clinton
> 
> 
> On 22/07/2011, at 12:08 PM, Skehan Adrian wrote:
> 
>> It works great on my iMac.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Adrian
>> adrianske...@me.com
>> 
>> On 22/07/2011, at 11:53 AM, Rod Lavington wrote:
>> 
>>> Unless you have a magic trackpad :)
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Rod
>>> On Jul 22, 2011 11:46 AM, "Tim Law" <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Do I assume that the swiping and dragging feature is only relevant to
>>> > laptop users?
>>> > And that desktop users don't get any benefit from this particular part of 
>>> > Lion?
>>> > 
>>> > Tim
>>> > 
>>> > On Friday, 22 July 2011, cm <cm200...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> I guess liking or not liking a piece of software is a personal choice 
>>> >> affected by many factors, but speaking for myself I think Lion is 
>>> >> fantastic! I have been using it for about four weeks now and the 
>>> >> gestures have become second nature. Also Mission Control gives a superb 
>>> >> overview of all running applications -- I personally hardly ever use 
>>> >> Dashboard, so I unchecked the System Preference "Show Dashboard as a 
>>> >> space". I can still access Dashboard using the F4 key on my MacBook Pro 
>>> >> (it's a different key on an iMac). Another setting that I have become 
>>> >> used to, even during the Snow Leopard era, is the three finger drag. 
>>> >> This means that switching spaces in Mission control has been bumped for 
>>> >> me to a four finger gesture.
>>> >>
>>> >> The graphics are hyper responsive! Switching desktops is an 
>>> >> instantaneous operation and once can even move the screen across in slow 
>>> >> motion. The inertia and responsiveness of the two finger scroll is 
>>> >> reminiscent of an iPad. I also use Launchpad often and access it via the 
>>> >> three finger plus thumb pinch.
>>> >>
>>> >> I think that another clever aspect of Lion is that Apple has maintained 
>>> >> backward compatibility of keystrokes and mouse clicks. If you don't want 
>>> >> to use the new gestures, or if you want to phase them in gradually, you 
>>> >> can still get by using the old keystroke combinations.
>>> >>
>>> >> I like the full screen view for some apps, like Safari, but prefer to 
>>> >> run Mail on its own desktop so that responding to an email does not tie 
>>> >> up the main interface. Pages and Numbers are better in full screen mode 
>>> >> for me. Unless I need to work on multiple documents, full screen removed 
>>> >> distractions. The automatic versioning and saving is a breakthrough and 
>>> >> I have already benefited from versions.
>>> >>
>>> >> There are some rough edges that I hope will be fixed in OS X 10.7.1. 
>>> >> There was a lot of pressure to get Lion out the door because it was 
>>> >> holding up the release of new hardware, so a few things are not as 
>>> >> polished as they should be. The problems, however, a likely easily fixed 
>>> >> over the coming weeks.
>>> >>
>>> >> * Mail has become unstable. I find that when overloaded it will crash. 
>>> >> This happens to me about once every two days. Fortunately automatic 
>>> >> saving means that the most I have lost is two words.
>>> >> * Safari in full screen mode does not behave properly when one reverse 
>>> >> pinch zooms in. The text, rather than being laid out afresh and wrapping 
>>> >> correctly, just extends beyond the edge of the screen.
>>> >> * I have had some initial trouble reconnecting to my router on wake up, 
>>> >> but this problem seems to have disappeared by itself. I think the 
>>> >> release version may have corrected this as I was using the developer GM 
>>> >> version until yesterday.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have submitted reports to Apple for the first two of the above defects 
>>> >> -- the Mail crash report being automatically generated.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> Carlo
>>> >>
>>> >> On 2011-07-21, at 23:18, rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Guys
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I have installed it on a new 15" MBP at the office and I will use that 
>>> >>> for testing, I have only had it up and running for about 2
>>> >>> hours now and haven't really formed an opinion as of yet.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Somethings are quite different and on first impressions I don't like 
>>> >>> them but I want to see if it grows on me, at the moment I
>>> >>> am trying to get our VPN working on it so far its not haha.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I can imagine that things like the autosave and resume will be very 
>>> >>> welcome here so will see how I go over the next few
>>> >>> weeks testing the applications CS suite, Office and our legacy stuff!!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Roger
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu Jul 21 23:10 , Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> sent:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Hi Steven
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I must admit I do agree with you with some of this.
>>> >>>> Some thing stand out as being slightly better, but some of it, like you
>>> >>>> say,..I just can't put my finger on it. For some of it, I thought, it 
>>> >>>> didn't
>>> >>>> seem as "Apple polished" as it should be. Some things seemed a bit 
>>> >>>> "chunky"
>>> >>>> or not finished off,..or just something.
>>> >>>> I can't quite put my finger on it,..but it doesn't seem the "Apple 
>>> >>>> smooth"
>>> >>>> go the extra mile stand out graphics (or something) that it should be.
>>> >>>> (And I'm running it on a MacPro with 18GB RAM, 5770 1GB Video card on 
>>> >>>> an
>>> >>>> Apple 24" LED "current" minDisplay monitor.) So it's not like it's "old
>>> >>>> gear". And right beside that is the same 24" LED monitor hooked up to 
>>> >>>> my
>>> >>>> 2011 MacBookPro running Snow Leopard. So it's "same same"),
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> But yes,..something just doesn't seem as crystal clear.
>>> >>>> Maybe there's some "tweak settings" or just getting used to the 
>>> >>>> different
>>> >>>> feel of it.
>>> >>>> Don't get me wrong,..there's lots of cool things it has and will 
>>> >>>> do.....
>>> >>>> But yes, I do have to admit the same thought as you mentioned.....
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> /Start flame war here :o) lol/
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Kind regards
>>> >>>> Daniel
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 21/7/11 4:05 AM, "Steven Knowles" emai...@knowles.net.au> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> After a preliminary play with Lion, my first impression was that it 
>>> >>>>> seems to
>>> >>>>> have taken a step or two backwards in terms of slick Apple interface.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I can't put my finger on it, but it just seems to have lost a little 
>>> >>>>> of that
>>> >>>>> smooth rounded aqua finesse and polish that I've become used to with 
>>> >>>>> Snow
>>> >>>>> Leopard. Somehow Lion seems to be a tad clunkier, maybe just a tiny 
>>> >>>>> bit tacky
>>> >>>>> in places. No doubt I'll get used to it. Maybe my expectations were 
>>> >>>>> set too
>>> >>>>> high. I'm only talking aesthetics at this stage, I haven't had chance 
>>> >>>>> to play
>>> >>>>> with the under-the-hood changes.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Steven
>>> >>>>>
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