All, For those who are using Mail, Contacts in Maverick and like me, are having problems with Mail not autocorrecting a Smart Group address created in Contacts, I have found a reasonable work around in the Apple Discussion forums.
Direct link: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5490015?tstart=0 > A better solution was provided by MacVA - it is as follows: > 1. Open Mail (not in full screen mode) > 2. Click "New Message" > 3. Make sure there is a toolbar with the "Address" silhouette showing (it > looks like a head and shoulder silhouette of a man). If necessary, go to the > View menu and click "Show Toolbar" and click "Cusomize Toolbar..." and drag > the Address silhouette to the toolbar. > 4. Back in the New Message window, click the Address icon. > 5. In the Addresses window that opens, click the name of the Smart Group you > want to use. > 6. Place the cursor in the right side of the window with the list of names > and Command A to select all. > 7. At the top os the Addresses window, click the To, Cc or Bcc icon and the > names will go to the address bar in the New Message. > 8. finish your Subject and text and send. > > It seems complicated, but once you work through the steps it is really easy > and a great workaround to a glaring problem. Through this process I've also discovered how to Customise the Toolbar in Mail, which might come in handy into the future again. Regards Tim On 30 Oct 2013, at 1:35 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: > Yes Ronni, it is what you said. > I didn't 'see' the difference in a created group and a smart group in your > instructions. > > Be that as it is, With previous versions, it made no difference whether it > was a smart group or not, as far as I recall. I have routinely used Mail bcc > to send to the same smart group, now it won't do that. Unless there is an > error in something I am doing, I will need to find another way. This may not > be difficult or onerous, and may be as simple as clearing the previous > recipients list as has been suggested, but it is different, and may in fact > been the same problem Peter experienced - which is why I chimed in in case > there was a system glitch affecting some users. > > One workaround is in Contacts, to right click on the group name, smart group > or normal group, and select 'send email to group'. > > If Mail will not auto complete from a Smart Group, so be it. Seems like a > loss of functionality to me, and not very helpful. It is very convenient to > simply add a keyword in a new Contact and for Smart groups to find that > keyword, and bring it into the group. Yes, I can drag the contact into a > manually created group, but it's extra thing to have to do. > > Tim > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 30/10/2013, at 13:09, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > >> Hi Tim, >> >> Isn't that what I explained in my first reply to Peter... I never mentioned >> to create a "Smart Group"? >> >> This is exactly what my first reply was: >> >> /Quote: >> 1. Basically you first Create your Group in Contacts.app >> File > New Group >> Name the Group "Business Projects" (or whatever) >> Select the contacts addresses for your group and drag them to the group. >> >> 2.Then drag the group name from the Contact Panel to an address field, >> or type the first few letters of the group's name and let automatic address >> completion do the rest. >> >> Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor >> a bogus "To" address, >> enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. >> The "To" field in the message each recipient gets will say >> "undisclosed-recipients": >> /End Quote: >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> On 30 Oct 2013, at 12:09 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> A bit more testing this morning. >>> >>> I have found that entering the name of a 'Smart Group' created in Contacts >>> will NOT auto complete in the Address line of Mail >>> >>> I have found that entering the name of a standard group to which I have >>> dragged contacts (from the Smart group of the same group of people) then >>> Mail WILL auto complete as expected. >>> >>> How does this work for others? >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> On 29 Oct 2013, at 11:06 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> Ronni I understand it is working for you, but Mail does not auto complete >>>> the group name for me, nor apparently Peter. Previous versions used to, >>>> now they don't. >>>> >>>> I understand and agree with principles of only using bcc. The failing here >>>> is the address not auto completing. All I see is the plain text of the >>>> group name as I have typed, nothing changes, nor indicates any acceptance >>>> by Mail of the address. >>>> >>>> I'll leave it for tonight and see if I can find any settings in Mail or >>>> Contacts another time. >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On 29/10/2013, at 22:46, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:37 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:21 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In Mail, if I type in the Groups name, enter a Subject and write some >>>>>>> text in the body of the email, then click Save. Then reopen it as Ronni >>>>>>> has suggested, the Groups name has not become live. >>>>>> >>>>>> In Mail, I enter the Group name in the BCC field. the group name does >>>>>> not appear to change, it just stays as plain text - 'business contacts' >>>>>> for example >>>>>> >>>>>> If I click on the red button to close that window, I get offered the >>>>>> option to save as a draft. Click Yes. >>>>>> When viewing the email in list view, all the addresses do NOT appear, >>>>>> and when the email is opened, none of the addresses appear. >>>>> >>>>> All the Addresses should NOT show. >>>>> BCC will only show the Group Name 'business contacts' or whatever your >>>>> Group is named. That is the correct way to send "undisclosed recipients". >>>>> >>>>> Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses >>>>> nor a bogus "To" address, >>>>> enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. >>>>> The "To" field in the message each recipient gets will say >>>>> "undisclosed-recipients": >>>>> >>>>>> So it appears to only be affecting the BCC field. >>>>> >>>>> As it should and always has. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would really like the Group title to indicate it has registered in any >>>>>> of the Address lines, not just stay as plain text. That's disconcerting, >>>>>> is it working or is it not? >>>>> >>>>> It is working as I mentioned in my original reply to Peter I sent a >>>>> couple of Group emails today without any problems. >>>>> >>>>>> I'm pretty sure it used to change in previous versions and you could >>>>>> view all the addresses as soon as you write the group name then tabbed >>>>>> or clicked to the next field. >>>>> You still can if you want to show all the recipients addresses in the >>>>> Group >>>>> In a new message, start to type the Group name in the TO: section, then >>>>> when it auto completes the name... It shows live, hold your cursor on the >>>>> group name, click the tiny arrow > Expand Group >>>>> Then the Group Name is gone and all the recipients names & addresses show. >>>>> All are live! >>>>> >>>>> Finish your message hit send. >>>>> But you should not send Group emails this way with everyones address >>>>> showing. >>>>> That is why it is correct to send all Group emails using the Group Name >>>>> in the BCC field. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Tim >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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