Hi Ronni I would really like to thank you very much for your advice and tutorials on the migration from my mbpro to the new imac.
I was able to complete the migration process yesterday without a hitch (taking just over 5hrs using the thunderbolt cable), and I am so impressed with the imac; what a great piece of technology...although I think I need a bigger desk!! I recall that you had mentioned that using Time machine as a very good backup system and i would like to try it (I havnt used it before), however Im not sure how to begin as I already use three external 3tb drives which each contain about 2tb of all my data and images etc, being more than what I have on my imac (about 500gb from my MBPro). I thought that I could use one of these external 3tb drives and begin by doing a back-up of the imac on it, and want to know if I should firstly erase that drive and start from scratch with the backup, then as I add more files to my imac (from the other drives), Time machine would back that up? Or, do I just attach it to the imac and let time machine work out which files need to be upgraded on the external drive? I will have a look online and I guess apple also has some resources? Many thanks for any advice Chris Christopher L.K. Burton Director Western Whale Research PO Box 1076 Dunsborough WA 6281 Mobile: 0419 199 120 Email: c...@it.net.au www.souwest.org On 07/07/2014, at 5:20 PM, Chris Burton wrote: > Hi Ronni > > I have downloaded Appcleaner to assist with the uninstalls for any apps that > need it. Would it be right to uninstall those that are 'classic' and ' > PowerPC' in addition to the 'intel' apps that I dont really need any more? If > so I could use the list shown by the System Profiler, sort by kind then use > Appcleaner to uninstall? Would that be right? > > Many thanks again > > Chris > > > Christopher L.K. Burton > Director > Western Whale Research > PO Box 1076 > Dunsborough WA 6281 > Mobile: 0419 199 120 > Email: c...@it.net.au > > www.souwest.org > > On 07/07/2014, at 1:52 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> My comments in situ below >> >> On 7 Jul 2014, at 12:11 pm, Chris Burton <c...@it.net.au> wrote: >> >>> Hi Ronni >>> >>> Thanks so much for your very helpful reply email, and my apologies for the >>> delay, I have been just flat out with some work finally arriving after a >>> long 14 mnths! >>> >>> I have a couple of questions and comments for you; >>> >>> I cant find your 'offlist' email, so can you send it to me please Ronni? >> >> I will email to you "Offlist" (as WAMUG does not allow attachments to be >> included in emails), my 'Tutorial Prepare For Mavericks' which I mentioned >> previously. >> >>> I havnt checked your website for the tutorial you mention. >> Migration Assistant - >> <http://www.ronnibrown.net/tutorials/migration-assistant-transfe/index.html> >> >>> I dont have a FW800 to Thunderbolt connector, but will contact the apple >>> shop in Busso to see if they have one, otherwise I will need to order one. >>> Bummer about that as I could have ordered one with the iMac! >> >> You have not mentioned which MacBook Pro you are going to be migrating from >> - If your MBP has a Thunderbolt Port you can use a Thunderbolt cable to >> connect MBP to iMac and use Setup Assistant - Migration Assistant - in >> Firewire Target Disk Mode. >> >>> Im a bit confused about a few things; >>> >>> You mention I have to update my 'non-generic apps and add-ons' in Snow >>> leopard before doing anything. >>> I assume that running Software update only does the Mac (generic) apps for >>> the OS (Snow Leopard), and I have to actually run each non-generic app (ie >>> PS6, Lr, Office etc etc) and then check for updates, is that right? >> >> Software Update only does Apple generic applications... You check for >> updates of non-generic applications & add-ons before you do the Transfer to >> your new Mavericks iMac - My tutorial that I will send you "offlist" >> explains this. >> >>> Will these updates mean that they should run on Mavericks when I transfer >>> them over to the iMac? >> >> NO... but you can check on the link that is included in my Tutorial whether >> they are compatible with Mavericks. >>> >>> For Lr4 I have the latest version (V 4.4) but did download Lr5 about 6 >>> months ago only to realise afterwards that it only runs on Mavericks!! So >>> with this software I might be in a jam, as Im not sure if my Lr4 catalogues >>> will go over to the imac before I install Lr5 on it? >> >> Adobe Lr4 is compatible with Mavericks >>> >>> I dont run Time Machine at the moment but I think I should do that once I >>> have the iMac up and running as I have upgraded the machine to the i7 >>> processor and a 3tb Fusion drive in anticipation of the huge number of >>> images I have, both for my whale research and photography! All my data and >>> images are on 3x3tb external HD backups with one always offsite in the Bank >>> vault!! >> >> GOOD! As long as you keep current good backups. I have a good Backup >> Strategy in place (which I have mentioned numerous times on WAMUG ;-) >>> >>> I will still be using my MBPro mainly for my whale research data analysis >>> when out of the office and offshore for work. >>> >>> I gather there are issues with the Mail app on Mavericks as others have >>> experienced? >> >> I have not encountered the issues that others have experienced. And when I >> did the Transfer & Setup (similar to what you are going to do from SL to ML) >> for a client we did not experience any problems at all. If you do the >> correct preparation and do the correct 'After' starting up the first time in >> either ML or Mavericks you should not experience any real problems...you >> might need to make some adjustments but that should be all. >> >> You can't rush an upgrade! >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >>> >>> Many thanks once again Ronni and I will follow your directions in your >>> previous email. >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> PS Just had a txt from Apple saying it is due here today, not tomorrow!! >>> Amazing as it has been extremely rough weather down here this morning! >>> >>> >>> Christopher L.K. Burton >>> Director >>> Western Whale Research >>> PO Box 1076 >>> Dunsborough WA 6281 >>> Mobile: 0419 199 120 >>> Email: c...@it.net.au >>> >>> www.souwest.org >>> >>> On 06/07/2014, at 11:31 AM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> When your new iMac arrives... resist the urge to boot it up... DON'T start >>>> the new iMac. >>>> It is preferred that migration be performed the first time you boot up a >>>> new Mac when Setup Assistant opens. >>>> >>>> Then - If you have updated your Non-Generic Applications and Add-Ons in >>>> Snow Leopard. >>>> >>>> A. The Final Steps you need to do before shutting down your old MBP Snow >>>> Leopard for the Transfer & Setup to New iMac >>>> You have already updated your Non-Generic Applications and Add-Ons in Snow >>>> Leopard (as many as possible). >>>> >>>> 1. Clean Up the Desktop: >>>> >>>> File everything that is on your Desktop to the appropriate locations on >>>> your Mac. >>>> You can leave anything important >>>> you are working on and need to have on the Desktop. >>>> >>>> 2. Run Software Update and install everything it shows >>>> >>>> 3. Open Disk Utility and 'Repair Permissions' on your Volume >>>> >>>> 4. Run a Final Time Machine Backup >>>> >>>> When it completes the >>>> backup >>>> >>>> Eject and >>>> disconnect the TM Backup Drive >>>> >>>> 5. Turn Time Machine OFF in System Preferences > Time Machine >>>> >>>> 6. Do any other Backups (Bootable Clone Backup) >>>> >>>> 7. Disconnect all external drives & devices connected to your iMac >>>> >>>> 8. Shut Down OLD iMac >>>> >>>> B. How to Use Migration Assistant to Transfer from old Mac (FW800) to a >>>> new Mac (Thunderbolt) using Thunderbolt to Firewire in Target Disk Mode. >>>> >>>> You might find my Tutorial helpful. >>>> <http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/migration-assistant-transfe/index.html> >>>> >>>> C. Note: After completing the Transfer of all your Users / Applications / >>>> Settings etc and your new iMac boots into Mavericks. >>>> You will need to update Apple Application Databases. >>>> >>>> What to do after installation of Lion-Mountain Lion-or Mavericks completes >>>> and your Mac restarts >>>> Spotlight >>>> >>>> 1. In most cases, as soon as Lion or Mountain Lion or Mavericks starts up >>>> the first time, Spotlight begins indexing (or re-indexing) all the files >>>> on all mounted volumes. >>>> This process can take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours, >>>> depending on how many files you have and the speed of your CPU and disk. >>>> >>>> During this time, you’ll notice a lot of disk activity (along with, >>>> perhaps, somewhat sluggish overall performance), and you’ll see a pulsing >>>> dot in the centre of Spotlight’s magnifying glass icon on the right side >>>> of your menu bar. (Clicking this icon during indexing displays an estimate >>>> of the time remaining for each volume.) >>>> >>>> Software Update >>>> >>>> 2. After Spotlight has finished indexing the Volume: Run Software Update >>>> The next thing you should do is to update Mac OS X itself (and any other >>>> crucial Apple software) to the latest version. Sometimes Apple releases >>>> bug fixes and security updates almost immediately after a major upgrade, >>>> and if any such urgent updates are available, it’s in your best interest >>>> to install them right away. >>>> >>>> Shortly after your Mac starts up under Lion / Mountain Lion / Mavericks >>>> for the first time, Software Update should run automatically; if it finds >>>> updated software, it displays an alert “Software updates are available for >>>> your computer......” >>>> >>>> If Software Update does not run, choose Apple > Software Update. >>>> Software Update checks if a newer version of Mac OS X (or any of the >>>> software installed with it) is available—and if so, offers to download and >>>> install it. >>>> >>>> Repair Permissions >>>> >>>> 3. Repair Permissions >>>> >>>> Let Apple Applications Update their Databases >>>> >>>> 4. Open Apple Mail from the Applications folder and let it update the Mail >>>> Database >>>> >>>> 5. Open iPhoto from the Applications folder and let it update the iPhoto >>>> Database >>>> >>>> 6. Open iTunes from the Applications folder and let it update the database >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> On 5 Jul 2014, at 9:42 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>> >>>>> Did you use my Tutorial mentioned in my previous email below and have >>>>> done the Preparations: >>>>>>> How To Check Your Applications Are Compatible With Mavericks' - >>>>>>> 'Explanation of 'Classic', 'Power PC', 'Intel' & Universal' >>>>>>> Applications - 'Clean Up Your Computer' - 'Check for >>>>>>> Mavericks-Compatible Update to Third-Party Software'. >>>>> >>>>> IF you have already updated your Non-Generic Applications and Add-Ons in >>>>> Snow Leopard (or as many as possible). >>>>> I can give further details from my tutorials or send you the Tutorials >>>>> "Offlist". >>>>> >>>>> 1. The Final Steps you need to do before shutting down your old Mac Snow >>>>> Leopard for the Transfer & Setup to New iMac. >>>>> 2. How to Use Migration Assistant to Transfer from old Mac (FW800) to a >>>>> new Mac (Thunderbolt) using Thunderbolt to Firewire in Target Disk Mode. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt" >>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD >>>>> >>>>> OS X 10.9.4 Mavericks >>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) >>>>> >>>>> On 5 Jul 2014, at 8:30 am, Chris Burton <c...@it.net.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi WA Muggers >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope everyone is well this very foggy Saturday morning (down south!). >>>>>> >>>>>> I have 'bitten the bullet' and purchased a new iMac, hopefully arriving >>>>>> this coming week. This machine will be my main image processing machine >>>>>> and my trusty MBPro will be my travel and whale work machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> However I would like to ask you what is the best way to transfer both my >>>>>> data and applications from my MBPro to the new iMac as I havnt done this >>>>>> for a long time. I recall there was a 'transfer' operation but I cant >>>>>> remember how? >>>>>> >>>>>> I need to get all my images over as well as PS6, Lightroom and Office >>>>>> 11. I did check that these apps will run on Mavericks. Im also expecting >>>>>> a learning curve with Mavericks compared with 10.6.8!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks for any advice. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards to all >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Christopher L.K. Burton >>>>>> Director >>>>>> Western Whale Research >>>>>> PO Box 1076 >>>>>> Dunsborough WA 6281 >>>>>> Mobile: 0419 199 120 >>>>>> Email: c...@it.net.au >>>>>> >>>>>> www.souwest.org >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29/05/2014, at 9:51 AM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 May 2014, at 8:46 am, Chris Burton <c...@it.net.au> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thankyou so much for your very informative description on why and how >>>>>>>> to clean up the Desktop, it was very useful for me and now I know why >>>>>>>> I should keep it clean. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In regards to your comments on using various apps with Mavericks, I >>>>>>>> recall sometime ago you mentioning a website that provides info on >>>>>>>> which apps will or will not work, is that right? If so could you >>>>>>>> please let me know what that is. Im hoping that PS6 and Lr4 will work >>>>>>>> at a minimum for me (although I did buy Lr5 last year and I know it >>>>>>>> does, but unfortunately doesnt work on 10.6.8!). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have the link to the website I mentioned some time ago is in my >>>>>>> Tutorial. I recommend you read my 6 Page Tutorial "Prepare For & >>>>>>> Installation of Mavericks OS X 10.9" which gives you all the >>>>>>> information required to have a successful Mavericks installation. >>>>>>> The Tutorial explains the preparation you need to do before installing >>>>>>> - how to install the Mavericks upgrade - then what you need to do >>>>>>> immediately after installation of Mavericks completes and your Mac >>>>>>> restarts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How To Prepare for Mavericks: >>>>>>> 'Can Your Mac Run Mavericks' - 'How To Check Your Applications Are >>>>>>> Compatible With Mavericks' - 'Explanation of 'Classic', 'Power PC', >>>>>>> 'Intel' & Universal' Applications - 'Clean Up Your Computer' - 'Check >>>>>>> for Mavericks-Compatible Update to Third-Party Software'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Installing Mavericks OS X 10.9 and then What To Do After Installation >>>>>>> of Mavericks Completes And Your Mac Restarts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not uploaded this Tutorial to my Website, but if any member >>>>>>> wishes to have a copy email me "Offlist" and I will email the PDF to >>>>>>> you. >>>>>>> Please note that I would appreciate a donation for my Tutorial. You >>>>>>> would appreciate that these Tutorials take a lot of my time and I do a >>>>>>> lot of 'Free' work for WAMUG members (as others also do) and have given >>>>>>> my Tutorials freely as well. There are a few members who have kindly >>>>>>> donated for some of my previous Tutorials which I very much >>>>>>> appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt" >>>>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OS X 10.9.3 Mavericks >>>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) >>>> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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