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> On 20 Dec 2015, at 2:40 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Ronni, thanks for that. Quite a predicament. > > Okay I had bought iPhoto and Aperture the old fashioned way and installed > them using DVD’s, so there was nothing to see in the Purchased tab in the App > Store relating to either of those apps. iPhoto from an Life DVD will only show up in Purchases, if you previously updated to at least iPhoto 9.4.5. That will have associated your Apple ID with iPhoto at the AppStore and add it to your Purchases history. If you never updated to a newer version, that is only available from the App Store, beyond iPhoto 9.4.3, you cannot reinstall iPhoto from the App Store. > > I had a hunt around on the web for ways of trying to find how to get iPhoto > 9.6.1 if you don’t have it in the Purchased tab. Someone suggested creating > a new user account with full admin privileges, restarting the mac, getting a > new apple id in the new name, logging into the App Store and then have a look. > > I did this and in updates I have 6, including iPhoto 9.6.1 and Aperture 3.6. > the others are Keynote, Numbers, Pages and iMovie, they all have “Update” > next to them. > > The million dollar question is as these say Update, not Install is it just a > question of clicking Update and letting it go ahead? You can try, it is worth a try - but I don’t ‘think’ this will work with iPhoto 9.6.1. I feel that when you click on Update (beside iPhoto) it will require you to Sign-In with your Apple ID. If you type in your regular Apple ID you probably will receive a message “Unavailable” if you type in the New User Apple ID you might receive “Not To Be Found”. But give it a go and see what happens. A Finder copy of iPhoto.app v 9.6.1 will work. In other words if you have the needed version (9.6.1) on another computer, or can obtain iPhoto.app v9.6.1 copy - you can delete the old version and copy over the 9.6.1 version into Applications. I have a copy of iPhoto.app v9.6.1 file size is 1.7GB, so I’d need to upload it to my Dropbox or Copy folder which will take all night to upload before you could download it. > Am correct in thinking that even though I have created another “user" that we > will both be using the same apps, so it will update my existing versions and > as I have no intention of ever doing anything under the new users name apart > from these updates, it should have no bearing on the existing apps? By default, all Applications are installed in /Applications. Those are available to all users. If you choose to install in your home Applications folder, they are only available to that user. > > I may if you give me the go ahead start with one of the apps I seldom use > like Numbers and see if it works on that first. I have left the iMac open on > the new users page, with the App Store page open in case I mess anything up, > until I hear from you. > > Thanks. > > Matt. Cheers, Ronni >> >> From: Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> >> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >> Subject: Re: A few problems after upgrade 10.8.5 to 10.10 Yosemite >> Message-ID: <cefb2bbc-a2f2-47d6-9c9b-1d3d696d5...@mac.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi Matt, >> >> As you were aware you require iPhoto v 9.6.1 & Aperture 3.6 in Yosemite. >> Apple previously stated that Aperture and iPhoto will remain functional if >> they were already installed. >> But both installed iPhoto & Aperture had to be the latest updates. >> iPhoto v 9.6.1 & Aperture 3.6 >> You mentioned that you have iPhoto v 9.4.3 & Aperture 3.4.5 so they need to >> be updated. >> I assume that when you went to "the App Store and downloaded 3 or 4 software >> updates" that iPhoto & Aperture were not showing? >> Aperture and iPhoto were removed from the Mac App Store and are no longer >> available for download. >> With their disappearance from the Mac App Store, however, users are unlikely >> to get future updates. >> >> After you update to 10.10.5 you will migrate your iPhoto & Aperture >> Libraries to Photos which came in the 10.10.3 update. >> Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still open it >> in Aperture or iPhoto if you like (though once you import, if you do >> anything new with that library in Aperture, it won't carry over to the >> Photos version). The same with iPhoto. >> >> The new Photos library references the same master images as your old >> library, so you don't need the space to store images twice. It also makes >> for an incredibly efficient migration process. >> >> So how can you update iPhoto & Aperture? >> If you purchased from the App Store. >> First try this: >> Go to the App Store and check out the Purchases List. >> If iPhoto is there then it will be v9.6.1 - If Aperture is there it should >> be v3.6 >> >> If iPhoto is under Purchases - Quit the App Store. >> Then: >> 1. Delete (Move to Trash,but don?t empty) all versions of the iPhoto.app >> that's on your hard drive. >> Induce any alias files for them as well. >> 2. Go back to the Purchases section at the App Store and download iPhoto >> 9.6.1. >> You might find you need to Sign Out and then Sign back In to your Account >> to change the ?Open? to ?Install? or 'Download? beside iPhoto >> 3. Click Download >> 4. Install iPhoto >> >> If Aperture was in Purchases - you might need to do things a little >> differently: >> Then: >> 1. Uninstall Aperture. >> Go to finder; applications, find Aperture. >> Click on Aperture, and look above to Action, click on that and click on >> ?Move to Trash?. >> 2. Open the App Store >> 3. Go to the Featured tab in the app store >> 4. Click on Account which is on the right side of the page. >> A box comes up for you to put in your password! Don't put it in. >> 5. Sign out. >> 6. Go back to Account, and Sign In. >> 7. Go to purchases. You will now should see Install to the right of the >> Aperture Icon >> 8. Install it again >> >> Unfortunately these are the problems you experience when you stay too far >> behind in OS X upgrades. >> Post back with your results please. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >>> On 19 Dec 2015, at 2:11 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >>> >>> HI Ronni, I have done all of those and have managed to get the App Store >>> online and downloaded 3 or 4 software updates. As we discussed I did not >>> install the 10.10.5, even though it was there, that was the only thing left >>> in the Upgrades. >>> >>> I repaired permissions and let Mail and iTunes update. >>> >>> Aperture and iPhoto still have the grey no entry sign across the front of >>> their icon and I thought I would wait to get some type on instruction from >>> you as to how to proceed with this problem for these two, or one as they >>> share the same database, before I try to open either of them? >>> >>> So far the rest of the installation has gone really well. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Matt. >>> >>> On 19 Dec 2015, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote >>> >>> Hi Matt, >>> >>> Power cycle everything, Modem - Router - Mac >>> Check Network settings >>> Check you have correct location Date & Time in System Preferences. >>> Time Zone 'Set time zone automatically using current location'. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>> >>> >>>> On 18 Dec 2015, at 8:10 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au >>>> <mailto:mmfal...@bigpond.net.au>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, I have just ran the install for Yosemite to upgrade from 10.8.5. >>>> (Thanks Ronni.) Most things seem to have worked out well. >>>> >>>> I have been working my way through Ronni?s list from ?Prepare to Upgrade >>>> to Yosemite?, after Spotlight had finished indexing, I tried to open >>>> Software Update but could not connect. I had to enter the WPA password >>>> into System Preferences to get the WiFi working again, no big deal there. >>>> >>>> When that was finished I still could not get Software Update to open, >>>> ?Cannot Connect to the App Store?. I tried, opening the ?firewall?, >>>> logging in and out of my Apple account, going to the Keychain to see if I >>>> had any Verisign login Certificates and a host of other possibilities, >>>> none could get the connection to open. Any ideas as to how to fix it so I >>>> can do the upgrades? (I had intended to only do the updates for this >>>> 10.10 version as Ronni suggested and then run the 10.10.5 later when >>>> everything is working ship shape.) >>>> >>>> Safari is working fine as is Mail. I did notice though that the icons for >>>> Aperture and iPhoto have a grey do not enter icon over them. So I did not >>>> attempt to open them before posting her to find out what I should do about >>>> them before hand? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Matt.
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