Hi Ronni, I tried the Update option and it came up with the message, "An error 
occurred during purchase" and would not go any further. I tried it on all the 
apps listed, so this option is not a viable one.

If you would so good as to upload the iPhoto 9.6.1 to your Dropbox or Copy 
folder and let me know how to access it I would be more than grateful.

Would I then just need to delete the old application and put the new one in 
place and open it?

Once again thanks very much.

Matt. 
 
On 20 Dec 2015, at 8:11 pm, Ronni Brown wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> My comments in Situ
> 
>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 2:40 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni, thanks for that. Quite a predicament.
>> 
>> Okay I had bought iPhoto and Aperture the old fashioned way and installed 
>> them using DVD?s, so there was nothing to see in the Purchased tab in the 
>> App Store relating to either of those apps.
> 
> iPhoto from an Life DVD will only show up in Purchases, if you previously 
> updated to at least iPhoto 9.4.5. 
> That will have associated your Apple ID  with iPhoto at the AppStore and add 
> it to your Purchases history. 
> If you never updated to a newer version, that is only available from the App 
> Store, beyond iPhoto 9.4.3, you cannot reinstall iPhoto from the App Store.
>> 
>> I had a hunt around on the web for ways of trying to find how to get iPhoto 
>> 9.6.1 if you don?t have it in the Purchased tab.  Someone suggested creating 
>> a new user account with full admin privileges, restarting the mac, getting a 
>> new apple id in the new name, logging into the App Store and then have a 
>> look.
>> 
>> I did this and in updates I have 6, including iPhoto 9.6.1 and Aperture 3.6. 
>>  the others are Keynote, Numbers, Pages and iMovie, they all have ?Update? 
>> next to them.
>> 
>> The million dollar question is as these say Update, not Install is it just a 
>> question of clicking Update and letting it go ahead?
> 
> You can try, it is worth a try - but I don?t ?think? this will work with 
> iPhoto 9.6.1. 
> I feel that when you click on Update (beside iPhoto) it will require you to 
> Sign-In with your Apple ID.
> If you type in your regular Apple ID you probably will receive a message 
> ?Unavailable? if you type in the New User Apple ID you might receive ?Not To 
> Be Found?.
> But give it a go and see what happens.
> 
> A Finder copy of iPhoto.app v 9.6.1 will work. In other words if you have the 
> needed version (9.6.1) on another computer, or can obtain iPhoto.app v9.6.1 
> copy - you can delete the old version and copy over the 9.6.1 version into 
> Applications.
> I have a copy of iPhoto.app v9.6.1 file size is 1.7GB, so I?d need to upload 
> it to my Dropbox or Copy folder which will take all night to upload before 
> you could download it.
> 
>> Am correct in thinking that even though I have created another ?user" that 
>> we will both be using the same apps, so it will update my existing versions 
>> and as I have no intention of ever doing anything under the new users name 
>> apart from these updates, it should have no bearing on the existing apps?
> 
> By default, all Applications are installed in /Applications. Those are 
> available to all users. 
> If you choose to install in your home Applications folder, they are only 
> available to that user.
>> 
>> I may if you give me the go ahead start with one of the apps I seldom use 
>> like Numbers and see if it works on that first. I have left the iMac open on 
>> the new users page, with the App Store page open in case I mess anything up, 
>> until I hear from you.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Matt.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>>> 
>>> From: Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com>
>>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au>
>>> Subject: Re: A few problems after upgrade 10.8.5 to 10.10 Yosemite
>>> Message-ID: <cefb2bbc-a2f2-47d6-9c9b-1d3d696d5...@mac.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> Hi Matt,
>>> 
>>> As you were aware you require iPhoto v 9.6.1 & Aperture 3.6 in Yosemite.
>>> Apple previously stated that Aperture and iPhoto will remain functional if 
>>> they were already installed.
>>> But both installed iPhoto & Aperture had to be the latest updates. 
>>> iPhoto v 9.6.1 & Aperture 3.6
>>> You mentioned that you have iPhoto v 9.4.3 & Aperture 3.4.5 so they need to 
>>> be updated.
>>> I assume that when you went to "the App Store and downloaded 3 or 4 
>>> software updates" that iPhoto & Aperture were not showing?
>>> Aperture and iPhoto were removed from the Mac App Store and are no longer 
>>> available for download.
>>> With their disappearance from the Mac App Store, however, users are 
>>> unlikely to get future updates.
>>> 
>>> After you update to 10.10.5 you will migrate your iPhoto & Aperture 
>>> Libraries to Photos which came in the 10.10.3 update.
>>> Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still open 
>>> it in Aperture or iPhoto if you like (though once you import, if you do 
>>> anything new with that library in Aperture, it won't carry over to the 
>>> Photos version). The same with iPhoto.
>>> 
>>> The new Photos library references the same master images as your old 
>>> library, so you don't need the space to store images twice. It also makes 
>>> for an incredibly efficient migration process.
>>> 
>>> So how can you update iPhoto & Aperture?
>>> If you purchased from the App Store.
>>> First try this:
>>> Go to the App Store and check out the Purchases List. 
>>> If iPhoto is there then it will be v9.6.1 - If Aperture is there it should 
>>> be v3.6
>>> 
>>> If iPhoto is under Purchases - Quit the App Store.
>>> Then:
>>> 1. Delete (Move to Trash,but don?t empty) all versions of the iPhoto.app 
>>> that's on your hard drive.  
>>>  Induce any alias files for them as well.  
>>> 2. Go back to the Purchases section at the App Store and download iPhoto 
>>> 9.6.1.
>>>  You might find you need to Sign Out and then Sign back In to your Account 
>>> to change the ?Open? to ?Install? or 'Download? beside iPhoto
>>> 3. Click Download
>>> 4. Install iPhoto
>>> 
>>> If Aperture was in Purchases - you might need to do things a little 
>>> differently:
>>> Then:
>>> 1. Uninstall Aperture. 
>>> Go to finder; applications, find Aperture. 
>>> Click on Aperture, and look above to Action, click on that and click on 
>>> ?Move to Trash?.
>>> 2. Open the App Store
>>> 3. Go to the Featured tab in the app store
>>> 4. Click on Account which is on the right side of the page.
>>> A box comes up for you to put in your password! Don't put it in. 
>>> 5. Sign out.
>>> 6. Go back to Account, and Sign In. 
>>> 7. Go to purchases. You will now should see Install to the right of the 
>>> Aperture Icon
>>> 8. Install it again 
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately these are the problems you experience when you stay too far 
>>> behind in OS X upgrades.
>>> Post back with your results please.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Dec 2015, at 2:11 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI Ronni, I have done all of those and have managed to get the App Store 
>>>> online and downloaded 3 or 4 software updates. As we discussed I did not 
>>>> install the 10.10.5, even though it was there, that was the only thing 
>>>> left in the Upgrades.
>>>> 
>>>> I repaired permissions and let Mail and iTunes update.
>>>> 
>>>> Aperture and iPhoto still have the grey no entry sign across the front of 
>>>> their icon and I thought I would wait to get some type on instruction from 
>>>> you as to how to proceed with this problem for these two, or one as they 
>>>> share the same database, before I try to open either of them?  
>>>> 
>>>> So far the rest of the installation has gone really well.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Matt.
>>>> 
>>>> On 19 Dec 2015, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>> 
>>>> Power cycle everything, Modem - Router - Mac
>>>> Check Network settings
>>>> Check you have correct location Date & Time in System Preferences.
>>>> Time Zone 'Set time zone automatically using current location'.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Dec 2015, at 8:10 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au 
>>>>> <mailto:mmfal...@bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, I have just ran the install for Yosemite to upgrade from 10.8.5. 
>>>>> (Thanks Ronni.) Most things seem to have worked out well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been working my way through Ronni?s list from ?Prepare to Upgrade 
>>>>> to Yosemite?, after Spotlight had finished indexing, I tried to open 
>>>>> Software Update but could not connect. I had to enter the WPA password 
>>>>> into System Preferences to get the WiFi working again, no big deal there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When that was finished I still could not get Software Update to open, 
>>>>> ?Cannot Connect to the App Store?. I tried, opening the ?firewall?, 
>>>>> logging in and out of my Apple account, going to the Keychain to see if I 
>>>>> had any Verisign login Certificates and a host of other possibilities, 
>>>>> none could get the connection to open. Any ideas as to how to fix it so I 
>>>>> can do the upgrades?  (I had intended to only do the updates for this 
>>>>> 10.10 version as Ronni suggested and then run the 10.10.5 later when 
>>>>> everything is working ship shape.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Safari is working fine as is Mail. I did notice though that the icons for 
>>>>> Aperture and iPhoto have a grey do not enter icon over them. So I did not 
>>>>> attempt to open them before posting her to find out what I should do 
>>>>> about them before hand?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt.
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