Hi all, I did eventually get this resolved. I had to take the plunge and update my Apple ID password - ugghhh. Anyway, it was relatively simple and without complications. As soon as I made the change - all my kids came to me holding their respective devices saying “Dad, I have to update the password, what do I do”! This was expected and simply resolved by entering the password. It happens a few times on each device for various reasons, app purchasing, Find my iPhone and some other things too much to remember.
However, I still have my entire family (13 devices in aggregate) with one AppleID which causes a level of workarounds with some iOS features to avoid overlap of data. I am still wondering if I should take the plunge to move the other 4 family members to their own Apple ID - and set them up as Family Shared members under me as the Organiser. Has anyone got any first hand advice on this question and any reason why I should or should not migrate to a Family Shared environment? Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au > On 30 Jun 2016, at 7:23 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hi again, I spent half an hour on the phone to apple support. The lady was > very helpful and convinced me that I will have to change my Apple ID > password. BUT, before I do that, I’d like to understand if there is > sufficient motivational pressure to make the move to a Family Shared > environment at the same time - or even in a serial fashion. > > Anyone have any first hand experience of Family Sharing with multiple family > members and with >10 devices? > > > Peter Crisp > petercr...@westnet.com.au <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au> > > > >> On 29 Jun 2016, at 7:22 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au >> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote: >> >> Hi Ronni, thanks for your in situ replies. See my replies alongside below. >> >> >> Peter Crisp >> petercr...@westnet.com.au <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au> >> >> >> >>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 1:13 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com >>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Peter, >>> >>> My comments in situ. >>> >>>> On 28 Jun 2016, at 8:15 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au >>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ronni, I did that and still no good. I then did a "Clear all content >>>> and settings" and then restore from backup - same issue after setup. >>>> >>>> I am puzzled by my inability to being able to get into the "Manage your >>>> Apple ID" page. When logging in I am presented with "Update your Apple >>>> ID". A bit of a Catch 22 situation. To get into Update the Apple ID, I >>>> need to be able to log in, I am unable to log in as I am presented with >>>> "Update your Apple ID" BEFORE I can go any further. >>> >>> Sounds like Apple wants you to update your password to a more secure >>> password and add ‘two-factor authentication' if you haven’t already. >>> <https://appleid.apple.com <https://appleid.apple.com/>> < >>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201303 >>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201303>> >> >> I’ll review the links on this. >>> >>>> This issue with Messages below is only affecting ONE device out of 13 in >>>> my family, and at that, it is just affecting the ability to send iMessages >>>> - for my 9 yo daughter! Hardly the strongest motivator for me to resolve >>>> urgently, but my conviction requires me to sort it! I know if I don't sort >>>> it, one day it will bite me when I can least afford it. >>> >>> Are you sure your daughter’s email is working on her iPad and that iMessage >>> is activated & her email address is ‘verified’? >> >> I haven’t yet launched into Mail for her. She has an email address which I >> created for her for the sole purpose of enabling iMessages (she has a wifi >> only iPad). iMessage is indeed activated (switched to green) and her email >> address I believe is verified as it appears in the pick list of available >> email addresses and phone numbers in the “You can be reached by iMessage at” >> section across all of the 8 iOS devices in the family. However, as I am >> unable to log into my Apple ID manage screen, I can’t confirm this. BUT, it >> has worked in the past with Delivery notices in iMessages etc, is it >> possible for it to have become unverified somehow? >> >>> >>> Have you checked the settings in Messages on daughter’s iPad that iMessage >>> is activated after the iPad was offline (not connected to the Network)? >>> Settings > Messages > turn iMessage ON and wait for it to activate. >> >> Activation works fine - it goes to the green position after 5 or so seconds. >> Been on the wifi network the whole time - haven’t left the house even. >> >>> >>> These instructions work for times when you need to re-activate iMessage due >>> to a network error. >>> Just toggle it on and off. >> >> I have toggled it off and on a number of times. >> >>> >>>> >>>> A parallel question if there are others out there with the same set up - >>>> ie all family members with ONE Apple ID across all devices for multiple >>>> family members. The introduction of the Family Share feature came AFTER I >>>> had numerous family members all with Apple devices/MacBooks and all with >>>> the same Apple ID. It has worked successfully for years - easy app >>>> sharing, Photos sharing, etc and easy enough to manage security with kids >>>> buying/not buying apps without authority. Do others recommend staying with >>>> one Apple ID for all family members OR make the change to a Family Share >>>> arrangement where each family member has their own Apple ID yet linked >>>> within the Crisp Family for the ability to share apps and other features? >>>> How does one migrate all these devices to their respecive new user >>>> specific Apple ID and what are the up and downsides to this? Does Find my >>>> iPhone when migrated to a Family Shared arrangement present all Family >>>> devices in the one panel (for the Family) as it does currently for me - or >>>> will I have to use Find my Friends for other family >>>> members? >>> >>> Turning on Family Sharing automatically adds all family members to each >>> others’ Find My Friends >>> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/find-my-friends/id466122094?mt=8>app, so >>> you can find out where each family member is (or, to be more accurate, >>> where each person’s primary iOS device is). >>> >>> Family Sharing requires Yosemite or iOS 8, so use it only if all your >>> family’s devices are running the latest versions of their respective >>> operating systems. >>> If your family fits that profile, here’s what you’ll get for up to six >>> family members: >>> >>> • All family members’ purchases of media from Apple are charged to the >>> credit card of the person you designate as the family organizer. (Family >>> members who have enough credit in their own Apple ID accounts can use that >>> credit to buy something without using the shared card.) >>> >>> • Kids (who can get special Apple IDs of their own even if they’re under >>> 13) can request media purchases from a parent, who must approve each one >>> individually. >>> >>> (Kids under 13 can have their own Apple IDs >>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201084>. As a parent or legal guardian, >>> the organizer creates the child’s Apple ID You’ll have to select an iCloud >>> username for your child (which will become the child’s Apple ID) and adds >>> the child to the family group. >>> Ask to Buy is turned on by default, and the organizer can also limit the >>> content kids have access to on their devices through Restrictions on an iOS >>> device or parental controls in OS X and iTunes.) >>> >>> • All family members can access each others’ media, although you can hide >>> particular items of your own that you don’t want to share. >>> >>> • A shared family photo album, calendar, and reminder list are created. >>> >>> • Family members can more easily share their locations (with Find My >>> Friends) and locate their devices (with Find My Device). >>> >>> Details and instructions how to setup Family Sharing at this link: >>> <http://www.apple.com/icloud/family-sharing/ >>> <http://www.apple.com/icloud/family-sharing/>> >> >> Thanks for the links on Family Sharing - I will review all of them. This >> looks to be something I could do sometime. However, for what specific reason >> should I change to a Family Sharing environment as opposed to staying with >> an all-users-to-one Apple ID. It has worked fine for many years. Whilst the >> Apple literature now says you shouldn’t have anyone but yourself on one >> Apple ID, it doesn’t mandate that you can’t have your entire family on one >> Apple ID - as it was in the early years necessarily so that you had no >> choice if you wanted to have your family see your stuff and not have to buy >> apps multiple times for one family - before Family Sharing became an option. >> Is the migration to Family Sharing for the 4 other family members with the >> aggregate 10 devices a seamless, no data lost exercise? It will be no small >> undertaking to get all apps with their respective Apple ID embedment and >> iTunes on MacBooks all converted over and for it not to go belly up at some >> point. >> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>> >>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5 >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml >>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml >>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml >> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml >> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>> >
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