Hi Peter, No direct experience, but I recently read this: <http://www.macworld.com.au/news/how-apple-could-improve-family-sharing-1431 62>
I guess the ³how it could be improved² bit implies current limitations which may or may not be important to you. HTH Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 18/7/16 17:46, Peter Crisp at petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: > Hi all, I did eventually get this resolved. I had to take the plunge and > update my Apple ID password - ugghhh. Anyway, it was relatively simple and > without complications. As soon as I made the change - all my kids came to me > holding their respective devices saying ³Dad, I have to update the password, > what do I do²! This was expected and simply resolved by entering the password. > It happens a few times on each device for various reasons, app purchasing, > Find my iPhone and some other things too much to remember. > > However, I still have my entire family (13 devices in aggregate) with one > AppleID which causes a level of workarounds with some iOS features to avoid > overlap of data. > > I am still wondering if I should take the plunge to move the other 4 family > members to their own Apple ID - and set them up as Family Shared members under > me as the Organiser. > > Has anyone got any first hand advice on this question and any reason why I > should or should not migrate to a Family Shared environment? > > > Peter Crisp > petercr...@westnet.com.au > > > >> On 30 Jun 2016, at 7:23 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hi again, I spent half an hour on the phone to apple support. The lady was >> very helpful and convinced me that I will have to change my Apple ID >> password. BUT, before I do that, I¹d like to understand if there is >> sufficient motivational pressure to make the move to a Family Shared >> environment at the same time - or even in a serial fashion. >> >> Anyone have any first hand experience of Family Sharing with multiple family >> members and with >10 devices? >> >> >> Peter Crisp >> petercr...@westnet.com.au >> >> >> >>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 7:22 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ronni, thanks for your in situ replies. See my replies alongside below. >>> >>> >>> Peter Crisp >>> petercr...@westnet.com.au >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 1:13 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Peter, >>>> >>>> My comments in situ. >>>> >>>>> On 28 Jun 2016, at 8:15 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ronni, I did that and still no good. I then did a "Clear all content >>>>> and settings" and then restore from backup - same issue after setup. >>>>> >>>>> I am puzzled by my inability to being able to get into the "Manage your >>>>> Apple ID" page. When logging in I am presented with "Update your Apple >>>>> ID". A bit of a Catch 22 situation. To get into Update the Apple ID, I >>>>> need to be able to log in, I am unable to log in as I am presented with >>>>> "Update your Apple ID" BEFORE I can go any further. >>>> >>>> Sounds like Apple wants you to update your password to a more secure >>>> password and add two-factor authentication' if you haven¹t already. >>>> <https://appleid.apple.com <https://appleid.apple.com/> > < >>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201303> >>> >>> I¹ll review the links on this. >>>> >>>>> This issue with Messages below is only affecting ONE device out of 13 in >>>>> my family, and at that, it is just affecting the ability to send iMessages >>>>> - for my 9 yo daughter! Hardly the strongest motivator for me to resolve >>>>> urgently, but my conviction requires me to sort it! I know if I don't sort >>>>> it, one day it will bite me when I can least afford it. >>>> >>>> Are you sure your daughter¹s email is working on her iPad and that iMessage >>>> is activated & her email address is verified¹? >>> >>> I haven¹t yet launched into Mail for her. She has an email address which I >>> created for her for the sole purpose of enabling iMessages (she has a wifi >>> only iPad). iMessage is indeed activated (switched to green) and her email >>> address I believe is verified as it appears in the pick list of available >>> email addresses and phone numbers in the ³You can be reached by iMessage at² >>> section across all of the 8 iOS devices in the family. However, as I am >>> unable to log into my Apple ID manage screen, I can¹t confirm this. BUT, it >>> has worked in the past with Delivery notices in iMessages etc, is it >>> possible for it to have become unverified somehow? >>> >>>> >>>> Have you checked the settings in Messages on daughter¹s iPad that iMessage >>>> is activated after the iPad was offline (not connected to the Network)? >>>> Settings > Messages > turn iMessage ON and wait for it to activate. >>> >>> Activation works fine - it goes to the green position after 5 or so seconds. >>> Been on the wifi network the whole time - haven¹t left the house even. >>> >>>> >>>> These instructions work for times when you need to re-activate iMessage due >>>> to a network error. >>>> Just toggle it on and off. >>> >>> I have toggled it off and on a number of times. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> A parallel question if there are others out there with the same set up - >>>>> ie all family members with ONE Apple ID across all devices for multiple >>>>> family members. The introduction of the Family Share feature came AFTER I >>>>> had numerous family members all with Apple devices/MacBooks and all with >>>>> the same Apple ID. It has worked successfully for years - easy app >>>>> sharing, Photos sharing, etc and easy enough to manage security with kids >>>>> buying/not buying apps without authority. Do others recommend staying with >>>>> one Apple ID for all family members OR make the change to a Family Share >>>>> arrangement where each family member has their own Apple ID yet linked >>>>> within the Crisp Family for the ability to share apps and other features? >>>>> How does one migrate all these devices to their respecive new user >>>>> specific Apple ID and what are the up and downsides to this? Does Find my >>>>> iPhone when migrated to a Family Shared arrangement present all Family >>>>> devices in the one panel (for the Family) as it does currently for me - or >>>>> will I have to use Find my Friends for other family >>>>> members? >>>> >>>> Turning on Family Sharing automatically adds all family members to each >>>> others¹ Find My Friends >>>> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/find-my-friends/id466122094?mt=8> app, so >>>> you can find out where each family member is (or, to be more accurate, >>>> where each person¹s primary iOS device is). >>>> >>>> Family Sharing requires Yosemite or iOS 8, so use it only if all your >>>> family¹s devices are running the latest versions of their respective >>>> operating systems. >>>> If your family fits that profile, here¹s what you¹ll get for up to six >>>> family members: >>>> >>>> All family members¹ purchases of media from Apple are charged to the >>>> credit card of the person you designate as the family organizer. (Family >>>> members who have enough credit in their own Apple ID accounts can use that >>>> credit to buy something without using the shared card.) >>>> >>>> Kids (who can get special Apple IDs of their own even if they¹re under >>>> 13) can request media purchases from a parent, who must approve each one >>>> individually. >>>> >>>> (Kids under 13 can have their own Apple IDs >>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201084> . As a parent or legal >>>> guardian, the organizer creates the child¹s Apple ID You¹ll have to select >>>> an iCloud username for your child (which will become the child¹s Apple ID) >>>> and adds the child to the family group. >>>> Ask to Buy is turned on by default, and the organizer can also limit the >>>> content kids have access to on their devices through Restrictions on an iOS >>>> device or parental controls in OS X and iTunes.) >>>> >>>> All family members can access each others¹ media, although you can hide >>>> particular items of your own that you don¹t want to share. >>>> >>>> A shared family photo album, calendar, and reminder list are created. >>>> >>>> Family members can more easily share their locations (with Find My >>>> Friends) and locate their devices (with Find My Device). >>>> >>>> Details and instructions how to setup Family Sharing at this link: >>>> <http://www.apple.com/icloud/family-sharing/> >>> >>> Thanks for the links on Family Sharing - I will review all of them. This >>> looks to be something I could do sometime. However, for what specific reason >>> should I change to a Family Sharing environment as opposed to staying with >>> an all-users-to-one Apple ID. It has worked fine for many years. Whilst the >>> Apple literature now says you shouldn¹t have anyone but yourself on one >>> Apple ID, it doesn¹t mandate that you can¹t have your entire family on one >>> Apple ID - as it was in the early years necessarily so that you had no >>> choice if you wanted to have your family see your stuff and not have to buy >>> apps multiple times for one family - before Family Sharing became an option. >>> Is the migration to Family Sharing for the 4 other family members with the >>> aggregate 10 devices a seamless, no data lost exercise? It will be no small >>> undertaking to get all apps with their respective Apple ID embedment and >>> iTunes on MacBooks all converted over and for it not to go belly up at some >>> point. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>> >>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
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