Thanks for this Ronni, there is a bit of reading to do to digest all that.
Before I had even spoken to Apple Support, the decision to update my Apple ID password was made and reinforced by your indication to do this - I hadn't chosen to ignore the advice. I had some family events and busy work periods which meant the issue of resolving my daughters Messages issue laid dormant for a few FIFO swings. As I work away, I have very limited windows where I can do things like this and I have to be at the family home as 13 devices affected - making this change with me away would send the house into meltdown. When I tried to actually do the update of the password, I couldn't, I ended up in a loop which was seemingly preventing me from doing the update. I would log in with my original Apple ID credentials which were acknowledged, and would get a blank panel (which later was corrected with Apple support help) where the update opportunity would subsequently present itself. It may have looked from the outside like I was ignoring, but your always accurate advice was certainly taken on board when it was provided. I merely used Apple Support to get me out of the loop I was in - which they we're able to do for me. I am inclined towards moving to Family Sharing and with your comprehensive notes will be closer than I was prior to the email of yours. Thanks again very much for the comprehensive notes. Regards Pete > On 18 Jul 2016, at 7:59 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > I’ve added to your subject - iCloud Family Sharing > > I was not going to add anything more as I've given you all information on > iCloud Family Sharing before, and mentioned that you first needed to update > your Apple ID password security. Which you chose to ignore until Apple > support also told you to. > > I’ll copy and paste more info from my documents on iCloud Family Sharing below > --- > iCloud Family Sharing > iCloud Family Sharing requires Yosemite or later, or iOS 8 or later, so I > recommend using it only if all your family’s devices are running recent > versions of their respective operating systems. If your family fits that > profile, here’s what you’ll get for up to six family members: > > • All family members’ purchases of media from Apple are charged to the > credit card of the person you designate as the family organizer. (Family > members who have enough credit in their own Apple ID accounts can use that > credit to buy something without using the shared card.) > > • Kids (who can get special Apple IDs of their own even if they’re > under 13) can request media purchases from a parent, who must approve each > one individually. > > • All family members can access each others’ media, although you can > hide particular items of your own that you don’t want to share. > > • A shared family photo album, calendar, and reminder list are created. > > • Family members can more easily share their locations (with Find My > Friends) and locate their devices (with Find My Device). > > Partial workarounds for some of these things already existed, but Family > Sharing makes the process much more convenient. > — > Enable Family Sharing > You can enable Family Sharing on either a Mac or an iOS device. Once it’s > enabled on one of your devices, it’s enabled on all of them. I’ll explain the > steps on a Mac here; if you use an iOS device, the process is similar except > you go to Settings > iCloud to start. Follow these steps: > > 1. On a Mac, go to System Preferences > iCloud. > > 2. Click Set Up Family. > > 3. Click through five informational screens, confirming that you really > want to do this, and agreeing to the terms and conditions. > > 4. In the dialog that appears, click Add Family Member to add one or > more family members: > > • ‣ For adults (and children with existing Apple IDs): Select > “Enter a family member’s name or email address,” enter the name or address, > and click Continue. Each invited family member will receive an email > invitation and must follow its instructions to accept the invitation. > > • ‣ For children without Apple IDs: Select “Create an Apple ID > for a child who doesn’t have an account,” click Continue, and then follow the > prompts. (See below Your Child’s Password, for important advice on choosing a > password.) You’ll have to select an iCloud username for your child (which > will become the child’s Apple ID), but then several screens go by before > you’re told if that username is available. If it isn’t, you’ll have to go > back to the child’s information screen, enter a new choice, and then step > through the process again—but at least the information you entered previously > will still be there. > > Enter your credit card’s three- or four-digit security code when prompted. > > To add another member, click the plus <page41image16328.png> button and > repeat this process. > > • When you’re done, click Done. > > To add or remove people later, go to System Preferences > iCloud and click > Manage Family. You can then change family members or adjust their details. > > Your Child’s Password > > Your child’s account password, like any iCloud account password, must meet > Apple’s minimum requirements—“at least eight characters, a number, an > uppercase letter, and a lowercase letter.” Normally I would suggest making > passwords stronger than the minimum. > > However, in the case of a password for a very young child— consider keeping > it on the simpler side. That’s because the child will need to enter the > password in order to Use Ask to Buy—and if your child has to pester you to > look up and enter a long, complex password every time he wants to download a > game, that defeats part of the purpose of Ask to Buy in the first place, in > that the child can’t complete the process independently of the parent. On the > flip side, the presence of Ask to Buy (assuming you have it enabled) reduces > the security risk of a less-strong password. > — > Share Calendar and Reminders > Each participating family member automatically has a Family calendar added to > Calendar (on OS X and iOS, and in the Calendar Web app) and a Family reminder > list added to Reminders. So, any events or reminders you assign to Family > will appear for all family members. > > But what if you already had a shared family calendar (whether or not it was > called “Family”)? That calendar will still exist alongside the new one. If > you want to switch over to the new Family calendar without losing all the > events in your old family calendar, do this: > > • In Calendar on a Mac, select your old family calendar. > > • Choose File > Export > Export, choose a name and destination, and > click Export. > > • Choose File > Import, select the calendar you just exported, and > click Import. > > • In the Add Event dialog that appears, select your new Family > calendar. Click OK. > > • After Calendar imports the events into your Family calendar, you’ll > have two copies of each one—one each on the old and new family calendars. > Skim these to make sure all your events are indeed present on both calendars. > > • Select your old family calendar, choose Edit > Delete, and click > Delete to confirm. > > The new family calendar will be used for family events from now on. > — > Share Family Photos > > Family Sharing creates a new shared photo album called Family on all the > family’s devices. Add photos to this album just like any other album, and > they’re available to all family members. > — > Use Find My Noun > > Family Sharing makes it easier for family members to use Find My Friends and > Find My Device > > • Find My Friends: Turning on Family Sharing automatically adds all > family members to each others’ Find My Friends app, so you can find out where > each family member is (or, to be more accurate, where each person’s primary > iOS device is). > > • Find My Device: On any or all of the family’s Macs and iOS devices, > family members can enable Find My Device (Find My Mac, Find My iPhone, etc.) > in System Preferences > iCloud (Mac) or in Settings > iCloud (iOS). > > Once that’s done, when you open the Find My iPhone app for iOS, or the Find > My iPhone Web app at icloud.com, your personal devices appear at the top of > the All Devices list (under a My Devices heading), followed by headings for > each family member’s devices. > — > Share Media > > Once Family Sharing is set up, media purchased from Apple by any family > member is available to the other family members, and new purchases are > charged to the organizer’s credit card. This is similar to how you can > re-download your own media. > > To see and download another family member’s purchases: > > • Mac apps: In the App Store app on your Mac, click Purchased and then choose > a family member’s name from the Purchased pop-up menu at the top. > > • iOS apps: In the iOS App Store app, go to Updates > Purchased (iPhone) or > Purchased > My Purchases (iPad) and tap a family member’s name. > Note: Some apps are not shareable among family members. (This is at the > developer’s discretion) Look at an app’s description in the App Store, and > you’ll see a Family Sharing entry that says either “Available” or “Not > Available.” > > • Books: In iBooks for Mac, go to Store > Store Home and click the Purchased > link. Then choose a family member’s name from the pop- up menu next to > Purchased at the top. > > In iBooks for iOS, go to Purchased (and then, on an iPad, to My Purchases) > and tap a family member’s name. > > • Music, TV shows, and movies: In iTunes for Mac, click iTunes Store on the > navigation bar, click the Purchased link, and choose a family member’s name > from the pop-up menu next to Purchased at the top. > > On an iOS device, open the iTunes Store app and then go to More > Purchased > (iPhone) or Purchased > My Purchases (iPad) and tap a family member’s name. > > On an Apple TV, go to Movies > Purchased > Shared Movies or TV Shows > > Purchased > Shared TV Shows and select a family member’s name. > > Note: If you subscribe to iTunes Match, your matched or uploaded tracks won’t > be available via Family Sharing because they weren’t purchased from Apple. > -- > Hide Purchased Apps > > To hide an app you’ve purchased from other members of your family, do this: > > iOS: Go to App Store > Updates > Purchased > My Purchases (iPhone) or > Purchased > My Purchases (iPad), swipe an app name to the left, and tap Hide. > > Mac: Go to App Store > Purchased, right-click (or Control-click) an app, and > choose Hide Purchase from the contextual menu. Click Hide Purchase to confirm. > — > Use Ask to Buy > > If your family includes children, you may want to use Family Sharing’s Ask to > Buy feature. Follow these steps: > > 1. Go to System Preferences > iCloud > Manage Family (Mac) or Settings > > iCloud > Family (iOS), select a family member, and turn on Ask to Buy (it’s > on by default for new children’s accounts). > > 2. To designate another adult as a parent or guardian who can approve > purchases, go to System Preferences > iCloud > Manage Family, select that > person, and select Parent/Guardian. > > 3. On each child’s device, log in with the child’s Apple ID in both iCloud > (System Preferences or Settings) and each media app (iTunes, App Store, > iBooks). > > 4. On each adult’s device, log in with the adult’s Apple ID in all the same > places. > > Thereafter, after the child clicks or taps the Buy or Install button in any > of Apple’s apps where media can be downloaded and enters her password, an Ask > Permission alert appears. > When the child clicks or taps the Ask button in that alert, parents get a > notification that they can approve or decline. > > Peter, I do not have first hand advice on this question per se, other than I > have assisted clients to setup their iCloud Family Sharing and they are happy > since making the change over to iCloud Family Sharing. > > Cheers, > Ronni > > >> On 18 Jul 2016, at 5:46 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hi all, I did eventually get this resolved. I had to take the plunge and >> update my Apple ID password - ugghhh. Anyway, it was relatively simple and >> without complications. As soon as I made the change - all my kids came to me >> holding their respective devices saying “Dad, I have to update the password, >> what do I do”! This was expected and simply resolved by entering the >> password. It happens a few times on each device for various reasons, app >> purchasing, Find my iPhone and some other things too much to remember. >> >> However, I still have my entire family (13 devices in aggregate) with one >> AppleID which causes a level of workarounds with some iOS features to avoid >> overlap of data. >> >> I am still wondering if I should take the plunge to move the other 4 family >> members to their own Apple ID - and set them up as Family Shared members >> under me as the Organiser. >> >> Has anyone got any first hand advice on this question and any reason why I >> should or should not migrate to a Family Shared environment? > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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