I have a huge amount of Movies on my Media Entertainment Server and I keep extra Backup copies of these movies on Thumb Drives as well as a dedicated backup external drive.
I have 128GB MS-DOS (FAT32) which I copy my movies that are under 4GB. I have numerous probably around 100 just under 4GB size on this Thumb Drive. And I have another 128GB exFAT which holds my movies that are over 4GB file size Stephen I would not have converted the .m4v It sounds like the .mov conversion could be corrupted. Cheers Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus > On 1 Dec 2017, at 5:36 pm, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: > > That’s a very interesting drive Stephen,…lol > > It’s Capacity is 16GB yet available space is 21GB,…lol. > Is that little the Doctor Who Tardis where the space inside is much larger > then the actual space? hehe. > (I’d like some of those then, if I can get a 16GB drive but put 21GB worth of > data on it,…hehe). > > Reminds me years ago when I came across a faulty 500GB drive (which was the > “top of the range” back then),…and a file on the drive told me it was 2TB’s > in size,…well before we’d even heard of 2TB drives! lol (they didn’t exist > then). Needles to say,…the drive was faulty,…hehe. > > Certainly a very strange and weird issue there,….makes me think I’ll have to > try that tonight when I get home and see if I can get a 2.5GB file onto my > Thumb Drives and see what it reports,…can’t recall as haven’t done that for a > while,…..hehe. > > Kind regards > Daniel > > Sent from my iPhone 7 > > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > Phone: 0414 795 960 > Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> > Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > > > **For everything Apple** > > NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and > as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. > Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or > accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this > email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the > author be requested. > >> On 1 Dec 2017, at 5:27 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Ronnie. >> >> Initially my friend came to me with a Video taken on her iPhone (and still >> on her iPhone) >> She did not know how to get it from her iPhone to a Thumb Drive. >> She had tried downloading to her PC but could not achieve that. >> >> So another friend of hers (also Windows) managed to download it to their PC. >> But the Video would not play. >> When her friend tried to copy to a Thumb Drive it would not copy. >> >> Up till now this all sounded like a typical Windows drama to me. >> The very reason why I use Mac. >> >> In plugged her iPhone into my iMac and dowloaded the Video file to Photos >> (no problem). >> The resulting file on my desktop was .m4v (I think from memory). >> So I used Toast Titanium to convert to a .mov file. >> >> “Wow” I thought. “Doing fine here”. >> The I tried to copy to her 8GB USB Thumb Drive. >> Could not copy because “the file is too big” >> It is 2.3GB for goodness sake, so no logic to this. >> Checked the Thumb Drive for any other files. Nope. Nothing there. >> >> So I thought “OK her Thumb Drive is buggered. >> I insert my 16GB Thumb Drive …. same scenario ! >> I insert my 32GB Thumb Drive …. same scenario ! >> This is all very strange because I am certain I have used my TD’s for many >> videos before. >> Surely they were not all under 2GB. >> >> Anyway I just inserted my 16GB TD to get details. >> Kind: Volume >> Format: MS-DOS(FAT32) >> Capacity: 16 GB >> Available: 21.07 GB (5.07 GB purgeable) >> Used: 2.6 MB on disk >> Sharing & Permissions: you have custom access >> >>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 4:15 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Neil, >>> >>> We need more information about Stephen’s Thumb Drive and the movie file he >>> is trying to copy to the thumb drive. >>> What format is the Thumb Drive? - whether there is ‘trash’ still on the >>> Thumb Drive taking up room - what is the Video file extension .mov .wmv >>> .mp4? >>> >>> Stephen: Connect the Thumb Drive to your Mac - then select it on your >>> Desktop (highlight it) - Go to File > Get Info. >>> The resulting Window will show Kind -Format - Capacity - Available - & Used. >>> And at the bottom under Sharing & Permissions do you have Privilege ‘Read & >>> Write’ >>> and ‘Ignore ownership on this volume’. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>> >>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.1 >>> >>> >>>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 5:31 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> Just adding my chart on formats & size limits. >>>> FAT32 (File Allocation Table) >>>> • Read/Write FAT32 from both native Windows and native Mac OS X. >>>> • Maximum file size: 4GB. >>>> • Maximum volume size: 2TB >>>> exFAT (FAT64) >>>> • Supported in Mac OS X only in 10.6.5 or later. >>>> • exFAT partitions created with OS X 10.6.5 are inaccessible from >>>> Windows 7 >>>> • Not all Windows versions support exFAT. See disadvantages. >>>> • exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table) >>>> • Maximum file size: 16 EiB >>>> • Maximum volume size: 64 ZiB >>>> NTFS (Windows NT File System) >>>> • Read/Write NTFS from native Windows. >>>> • Read only NTFS from native Mac OS X >>>> • To Read/Write/Format NTFS from Mac OS X: Install NTFS-3G for Mac OS X >>>> (free) >>>> • Some have reported problems using Tuxera (approx 33USD). >>>> • Native NTFS support can be enabled in Snow Leopard, but is not >>>> advisable, due to instability. >>>> • Maximum file size: 16 TB >>>> • Maximum volume size: 256TB >>>> HFS+ (Hierarchical File System, a.k.a. Mac OS Extended) >>>> • Read/Write HFS+ from native Mac OS X >>>> • Required for Time Machine or Carbon Copy Cloner backups of Mac >>>> internal hard drive. >>>> • To Read/Write HFS+ from Windows, Install MacDrive >>>> • To Read HFS+ (but not Write) from Windows, Install HFSExplorer >>>> • Maximum file size: 8EiB >>>> • Maximum volume size: 8EiB >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:54 pm, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Are yes,…sorry, my bad. Forgot you’d said it was over 2GB. (Sorry I got >>>>> sidetracked on talking about the Trash,…lol) - I may have misread the >>>>> email in passing. Ooops..sorry. Too long a day (week),…lol. >>>>> If ti’s going to a Windoze user and they have a fairly recent Windows >>>>> system then you should be ok with exFAT in that case. >>>>> >>>>> The other way to do it if you have something like Dropbox or OneDrive or >>>>> similar, would be to put it in there (as long as you have more then 4GB >>>>> storage space) and then email them a link for them to download it from. >>>>> I use that when moving files too big to email. :) >>>>> Or similar ways like that too. But yes exFAT should be fine. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>> MacWizardry >>>>> >>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>> >>>>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion >>>>> and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>>>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form >>>>> of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >>>>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, >>>>> that permission by the author be requested. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:45 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Daniel. >>>>>> Thank you for your extensive information. >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store >>>>>> files above 2GB in size. >>>>>> The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB. >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ? >>>>>> But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Stephen and all,…. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just a few other things that can affect this as well. >>>>>>> I’ll try explain it as best as possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into >>>>>>> the “Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” then >>>>>>> although the Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still take up >>>>>>> space as they’re sitting in the drive. >>>>>>> A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you >>>>>>> have the computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash. >>>>>>> Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually >>>>>>> different. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To try and explain this another way. >>>>>>> Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the >>>>>>> computer up and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard >>>>>>> drives or USB drives plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, you’ll >>>>>>> get the “changed icon” of the Trash. (i.e. it will go from being a Full >>>>>>> Trash icon to an Empty Trash icon). If you double click it to view the >>>>>>> Trash, it will be empty. >>>>>>> Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything >>>>>>> still sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear >>>>>>> to be full again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in >>>>>>> there. These items would belong to the Trash. >>>>>>> (you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then >>>>>>> if you have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then >>>>>>> drag it to the Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But once >>>>>>> you eject the Hard Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty again. >>>>>>> Once you plug the drive back in, the Trash can will fill up again. (as >>>>>>> it’s showing items on the external drive). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way when I plug things >>>>>>> in, I know if they have anything to “check” or are completely free of >>>>>>> space, as the Trash will also be empty. It’s a bit easy to trash where >>>>>>> things are “Stored” as to what trash is there as well. (and then >>>>>>> knowing that each drive is completely free when I plug it in). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve seen this happen before, where a USB stick will “appear” to be >>>>>>> empty, but because the Trash can is “full” from things on the computer, >>>>>>> as well as things on the external drive, you can’t tell the difference. >>>>>>> So don’t realise the USB drive isn’t actually “empty”. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Re the formatting of it. For the “best fit” for most computers >>>>>>> MS-DOS(FAT32) is the better one to use. ExFat is meant to be a new >>>>>>> (better) format, but on some machines they still may not recognise it. >>>>>>> So to get the “best for everything” I’d say go with the MSDOS(FAT32). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope that information helps people. (It’s a bit confusing, so hopefully >>>>>>> it makes sense,…hehe). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion >>>>>>> and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>>>>>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any >>>>>>> form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if >>>>>>> any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or >>>>>>> copied, that permission by the author be requested. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 9:48 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Rob. >>>>>>>> Just tried thumb drive 16GB again. >>>>>>>> Does appear in Finder Sidebar. >>>>>>>> Also now appears in Disk Utility (must have a mind of its own - now >>>>>>>> you see me, now you don’t) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Formatted in MS-DOS(Fat 32) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Other options are: >>>>>>>> Mac OS Ext Journaled >>>>>>>> Mac OS Ext Case sensitive Journaled >>>>>>>> ExFat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which do you suggest for use on both Mac and Windows ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 8:49 pm, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Strange. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just inserted one and it came up in disk utility. >>>>>>>>> Another one didn't come up immediately, but did ask if I wanted to >>>>>>>>> erase it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does the thumb drive appear in the finder? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 30/11/17 6:45 pm, Stephen Chape wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Thank you Rob. >>>>>>>>>> Do you know how to format a thumb drive ? >>>>>>>>>> It does not show up in Disk Utility. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stephen >>>>>>>>>>> I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows >>>>>>>>>>> formats - can't remember the name... FAT? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy >>>>>>>>>>> OK. Or in a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for >>>>>>>>>>>> him. >>>>>>>>>>>> The file is 2.23GB. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because >>>>>>>>>>>> “it is too large for the drives”. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But I cannot understand what happened. >>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas please folks ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Chape >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> >> >> Regards, >> Stephen Chape >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
