 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni. 
> 
> I’m pretty sure sure I’m properly verified, authorised and authenticated by 
> two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. 
> 
> I’m off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so I’m optimised as well. 
> ;-). 
> 
> I’m still a little confused but I am assuming  the Two-Factor Verification  
> you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. 

No they are NOT the same- ‘similar’ but they are different as I mentioned in my 
previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security.

> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
> 
> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features that 
> call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to iCloud 
> users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or later.

Cheers,
Ronni
> 
> Cheers. 
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the newer 
>> “Two-Factor Verification"
>> I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my 
>> iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step Verification ON
>> 
>> When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted 
>> devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 4-digit 
>> verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're required to 
>> provide at least one SMS capable phone number.
>> Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or 
>> make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need to 
>> verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit 
>> verification code. 
>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication?
>> 
>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built 
>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a 
>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features 
>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to 
>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or 
>> later.
>> 
>> If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X El 
>> Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. If 
>> you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade to iOS 
>> 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings may be 
>> automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication.
>> 
>> Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to users 
>> who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are otherwise 
>> ineligible for two-factor authentication.
>> 
>> More details are at this link:
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204152>
>> Published Date: Nov 15, 2017
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Ronni,
>>> 
>>> I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in Jun 
>>> 3, 2016.
>>> 
>>> When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the 
>>> Security area as per the direction, there are five options:
>>> 
>>> PASSWORD
>>> Change Password… 
>>> 
>>> TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS 
>>> Add a Trusted Phone Number…
>>> Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in and 
>>> to recover your account if you lose access.
>>> 
>>> APP-SPECIFIC PASSWORDS
>>> Generate Password…
>>> Use an app-specific password when signing in to an app or service not 
>>> provided by Apple.Learn more.
>>> 
>>> NOTIFICATION EMAIL
>>> xxxx@email address
>>> Remove
>>> Edit Email Address… 
>>> Apple uses this notification email to send you important account and 
>>> security related information.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION
>>> On
>>> Your password and a verification code will be required when your Apple ID 
>>> is used to sign in on a new device or browser. Learn more.
>>> Turn Off Two-Factor Authentication
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As per my previous email, I’ve found a solution which works. Apple just 
>>> needs to update it’s help files, unless I have missed something.
>>> 
>>> Ta
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 1:08 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>> 
>>>> If you lost your Recovery Key
>>>> As long as you remember your Apple ID password and still have access to 
>>>> one of your trusted devices, you can sign in and create a new Recovery Key.
>>>> Go to your Apple ID account page.
>>>> Sign in with your password and trusted device.
>>>> In the Security section, click Edit > Replace Lost Key.
>>>> Keep your new Recovery Key in a safe place. Your old Recovery Key won't 
>>>> work anymore and you can't use it to reset your password or access your 
>>>> account.
>>>> 
>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202649>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>>> 
>>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:13 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Solution found.  :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Every time I need to log into iCloud on my iOS 5.1.1. device I will need 
>>>>> to generate a new Verification Code.  Then instead of using ONLY the 
>>>>> AppleID password, I will have to add the Verification to the end of the 
>>>>> password in one long string. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seems to work okay. A bit fiddly, but the old device is back on track. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:43 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have an old iPad version 1 using iOS 5.1.1 that has been unused for a 
>>>>>> while. I would like to be able to log into iCloud but have activated Two 
>>>>>> Factor authentication some time ago. I am running High Sierra OSX 
>>>>>> 10.13.4 and iOS 11.3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072  “Generate a recovery key 
>>>>>> after you update to two-factor authentication” it gives the directions 
>>>>>> to go to iCloud preferences and generate a new Recovery Key. But the 
>>>>>> only option is to give an Verification Code, not a Recover Key.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> in iOS 5.5.1 on the iPad, I go to iCloud settings, enter my AppleID 
>>>>>> password and the next screen asks for the Recovery Key.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have no idea where I may have kept my Recovery Key. Generally I would 
>>>>>> have stored it in 1Password, but must have failed to do so because I 
>>>>>> cannot find it.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there a way to generate a new Recovery Key? or another way to move 
>>>>>> forward for this old iPad.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Tim
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