Like you Peter, I’m keeping both my Mac computers running High Sierra and I see 
no reason for me to upgrade at this time.
High Sierra is a very secure and stable OS.

Kind Regards,
Ronni 

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 29 Apr 2020, at 5:20 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Righto, thanks for that link Ronni. For a number of reasons in reading 
> through the link, I can see no reason for me to update to Catalina yet - if 
> ever. Currently I have an old (but still functioning) MS Office for Mac 2011 
> which is useful for whenever I do have an Office file, but I don't use it 
> often and have alternatives with my Work Windows laptop. The removal of 
> iTunes. I didn't explore that but it seems pretty large in impact. Presumably 
> there are precautions to take. But for the moment, with my perfectly 
> functioning Macbook Pro 2013 running High Sierra, it is all good. 
> 
> All I have to remind me is a constant red dot over App store saying I have an 
> OSX update I 'should' do. 
> 
> Will look into the iTunes things some time. 
> 
> I also think there is no longer available a localized installation for Office 
> 2016 or later and we now have to resort to the constant funding model the 
> software developers want us to use with annual fees - Office 365 as an 
> example. I may use Word or Excel up to 5 times in any one year. It really 
> doesn't make sense to fund an annual subscription for one machine when I have 
> alternatives. I know my case is unique to me and others will be solely 
> reliant on their Mac's, so then it is justifiable for them. 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
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> To:
> <wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Cc:
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> Sent:
> Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:51:02 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: Horrible Catalina
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> Hi Pat,
> 
> https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/12/20908567/apple-macos-catalina-breaking-apps-32-bit-support-how-to-prepare-avoid-update
> 
> ‘Apple’s latest Mac update, macOS Catalina, was released earlier this week, 
> and with it came a flurry of complications both minor and major. 
> For one, this update is the first for Apple to drop 32-bit application 
> support, which is causing all sorts of headaches for users of smaller apps, 
> plug-ins, and other software that may not be updated for quite some time or 
> may have been created by a company that no longer exists. There are also a 
> fair number of other issues with Catalina, like Adobe software 
> incompatibility problems and unforeseen hurdles related to the removal of 
> iTunes. 
> That leads us to a series of important questions for Mac users who may be at 
> risk of having important workflows disrupted by Catalina. What exactly might 
> go wrong if you do upgrade? Should you upgrade now, and what should you do 
> before pulling the trigger?
>  Or should you hold off for now, and if so, what’s the best way to do that 
> and also monitor when it might be safe to make the jump?’
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 29 Apr 2020, at 4:42 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Pat, sorry to hear this. I had heard of some troubles from people on the 
> WAMUG upon the initial release of Catalina but nothing of late. Your note 
> comes out of the blue for WAMUG I think. Can you be specific about the issues 
> you;re having?  I am holding off doing my update to Catalina simply because I 
> hadn't had the time to research if the early issues had been resolved or not. 
> Do others have any first hand user experience about it's use and issues they 
> have had. 
> 
> Is there anyone else recommending to NOT install Catalina at this time?
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
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> To:
> "wamuG Mailing List" <wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Cc:
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> Sent:
> Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:55:57 +1000
> Subject:
> Horrible Catalina
> 
> 
> Hello, WAMUGgers, I moved over to Brisbane,4 months ago. My computer didn’t 
> catch up with me for several of those months. When I finally cranked it up 
> and pushed the Start button, there was Catalina. Well, I thought, I hope it 
> is as good as its predecessor. But, I was in for shock after shock. To put it 
> in straight words: I Hate Catalina. There are so many horrible changes; what 
> has Apple been thinking? I read about the Mac virus problem, but that doesn’t 
> warrant the infliction of Catalina on unsuspecting computers.
> 
> Anyway, does anyone know if Catallina will be superceded? Soon? And does 
> anyone know if there is anything like WAMUG in Brisbane? 
> 
> I wish good health for all of you in these treacherous times.
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> Stay safe and warm,
> Pat Scott
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