--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Tri Budi Lestyaningsih 
(Ning)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Kalau feminist itu mendahulukuan kebebasan perempuan, maka ia tidak 
akan melarang kawin dengan anak 12 tahun, mas. Terserah anaknya aja. 
Kalau memang anak (wanita) itu dengan sukarela, tanpa paksaan, atau 
bahkan berkeinginan untuk menikah. maka feminist itu akan membolehkan 
juga.. Karena anak (wanita) itu memiliki hak untuk memilih.
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> Bukankah demikian ?
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com [mailto:wanita-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rye Woo
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:34 PM
> To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fatwa: Istri Korban KDRT, LAWAN!
> 
> Con otak lo harus sering2 di cuci tuhh ato di up grade dikitlah... 
biar ga hang truss..
>  
> Hayuu makan2 con... pengen juga nyobain makan2 sama Arcon si 
borokokok, ungkin bisa nyicipin rasanya feminist2an.. hehehe..
> Dimana con makan2nya,, undang juga dong Om Fuji nyaaa.. 
> Jangan lupa juga ajak "feminist2" nya, tapi jangan yang abal-abal 
atau gadungan.. biar seru..
>  
>  
> Ck
> 
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> --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Ari Condro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> From: Ari Condro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fatwa: Istri Korban KDRT, LAWAN!
> To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:07 PM
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> feminisme itu melarang kawin dgn anak 12 tahun islam itu 
membolehkan kawin dengan anak 12 tahun
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> note : feminisme bertentangan dengan islam
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> selanjutnya :
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> - kita ini islam, jadi harus mendukung kawin dgn anak 12 tahun
> - mari makan makan ! :P
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> 2008/10/29 Rye Woo <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
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> > Jng berfikir sepicik itu con apa perlu isi otaknya di re-con... 
hehehe
> >
> > Cobalah liat ajaran islam... sangat begitu mengagungkan 
perempuan..
> > Gmn bisa Islam bertentangan dengang keperempuannan, ,
> >
> > Coba Awak tanya, feminist itu apaa?
> > feminist bukan hanya versi lo aja lho con..
> >
> > --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Ari Condro <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > com<masarcon%40gmail. com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Ari Condro <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <masarcon%40gmail. com>>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fatwa: Istri Korban KDRT, LAWAN!
> > To: "Milis wm" <wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com<wanita-
muslimah% 
> > 40yahoogroups. com>
> > >
> > Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 6:55 PM
> >
> > Islam itu feminist ?
> > Wah, hayuk makan makan kalo gitu.
> >
> > Contoh islam feminis adalah seperti syekh puji, bangga dong 
mengangkat 
> > harkat wanita, terutama yg 12 tahun ke bawah, harkatnya diangkat 
ke 
> > kasur
> > :))
> >
> > Islam kan jelas bertentangan dgn feminisme. Bahkan feminis itu 
harom. 
> > Rye woo nih ada ada ajah.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rye Woo <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
> >
> > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:33:51
> > To: <wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com>
> > Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fatwa: Istri Korban KDRT, LAWAN!
> >
> > Menurut ayee sebenarnya kalo dipahami secara menyeluruh, islam 
itu 
> > sangat feminist bgett.. Cuma sayang sebagian org melihat dan 
memahami 
> > dari sisi2 tertentu saja.
> >
> > Mungkin banyak "feminist" Jadi-jadian, yang seolah2 cuma mereka 
yg 
> > mngerti tg keperempuanan. .. jadinya yaa tabrak sana tabrak sini 
tanpa 
> > melihat kondisi, situasi kodrat dan peran dasarnya.. Mudah2an 
sihh 
> > disini engga ada yaa, yaa tapi kalo ada yg tersinggung mohon 
maaf, 
> > mungkin anda terlalu sensi... hehehe
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> >
> > --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Trulee Khadija <trulee.khadija@ gmail.com> 
wrote:
> >
> > From: Trulee Khadija <trulee.khadija@ gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Fatwa: Istri Korban KDRT, LAWAN!
> > To: wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com
> > Cc: keluarga-sejahtera@ yahoogroups. com, majelismuda@ 
yahoogroups. 
> > com
> > Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 3:38 PM
> >
> > Nah.. kalo udah baca artikel ini.. jadi tau kan, bahwa Islam 
SANGAT 
> > menghargai keberadaan wanita sebagai mahluk Allah yang HARUS 
> > diperlakukan secara pantas.
> > Kadang saya suka miris dengan kaum feminis yang senang berteriak2 
ttg 
> > kesetaraan gender. Apanya sih sebenarnya yang mereka tuntut? 
Apabila 
> > hukum Allah diterapkan, maka dunia akan menjadi tempat yg paling 
> > tenang bagi kaum wanita. PERCAYALAH :)
> >
> > On 10/28/08, Dwi Soegardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
> > > Syekh Al-Azhar memfatwakan istri yang dianiaya oleh suami, 
berhak
> > melawan...
> > > Dipukul balas pukul.
> > >
> > > Sedangkan ulama Turki Fethullah Gulen melangkah lebih jauh, 
istri 
> > > berhak membalas penganiayaan suami plus bunganya.
> > > Dipukul sekali balas pukul dua kali.
> > >
> > > http://www.arabtime sonline.com/ kuwaitnews/ pagesdetails.
> > asp?nid=24044& ccid=18
> > >
> > > Egypt sheikh backs women's right to beat husbands
> > >
> > >
> > > CAIRO, Oct 27, 2008 (AFP) - Sunni Islam's highest authority has 
> > > approved a woman's right to fight back if her husband uses 
violence 
> > > against her, Egypt's Al-Masry al-Youm newspaper reported on 
Monday.
> > >
> > > The declaration by Sheikh Abdel Hamid al-Atrash, who heads Al-
Azhar 
> > > University's committee for fatwas or religious rulings, comes 
after 
> > > similar rulings by religious leaders in Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
> > >
> > > 'A wife has the legitimate right to hit her husband in order to 
> > > defend herself,' Atrash was quoted as saying.
> > >
> > > 'Everyone has the right to defend themselves, whether they are 
a man 
> > > or a woman... because all human beings are equal before God,' 
he said.
> > >
> > > Over the last few days, Saudi Sheikh Abdel Mohsen al-Abyakan 
> > > stressed the fact that a wife should resort to 'the same kind 
of 
> > > violence' as her husband used against her, whether it be with a 
> > > leather strap or a wire cable, the paper said.
> > >
> > > Prominent Turkish Muslim preacher and writer Fethullah Gulen 
went 
> > > one step further and ruled that a woman should return the 
violence 
> > > with interest.
> > >
> > > 'She should give back two blows for each one received,' the 
paper 
> > > quoted him as saying.
> > >
> > > Rights groups quoted by Amnesty International say that 35 
percent of 
> > > Egyptian women killed each year die as a result of domestic 
violence.
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> Ari
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