Brett,

Yes, the reliable delivery of messages as discussed is for the
federation protocol, not client-server protocol. The client-server
protocol has its own set of issues, thought the lightweight one
shipped with fedone should be sufficient for basic use.

thanks,
Jochen

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Brett Morgan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM, jochen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 20, 12:08 pm, Michael K <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > As I've mentioned in the "Time for a Client/Server protocol"
>> > discussion
>> > (https://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol/browse_thread/thread/18...
>> > ) a while back, I am planning to take the existing FedOne console
>> > client code, and separate its communications layer into a java
>> > library. This way people (including myself) can start making their own
>> > clients for FedOne, at least in java, and not have to wait for a
>> > complete C/S protocol to be developed (which I think is still a long
>> > way off).
>> >
>> > I just finished setting up my development environment today, and I
>> > will be familiarizing myself with the FedOne code over the next week
>> > or two. I will post updates in this group when there is something
>> > worthy of mentioning.
>> >
>> > Anyway, I would certainly be very interested to know who else is
>> > working on which parts that are still missing from FedOne, and to
>> > coordinate my work with other contributors.
>> >
>> > There are still a lot of things missing from FedOne. We should make a
>> > detailed list on that page you've started. A client/server API (or
>> > preferably a proper C/S protocol) and persistance are the two most
>> > critical parts. ACL and client-side OT also come to mind. What else?
>>
>> Hi Mikael,
>>
>> You correctly point out that persistence, ACL and client-side OT are
>> critical for a non-prototype system. Another missing critical feature
>> is reliable delivery of updates (see an earlier post of mine:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol/browse_thread/thread/96e7c637c2332881/786f64cdf3d67953?hl=en&lnk=gst&[email protected]#786f64cdf3d67953)
>> - we are working on a better requirements spec for this.
>>
>> regards,
>> Jochen
>>
>
> Jochen,
>
> Correct me if i'm wrong, but at least for reliable delivery of deltas
> between a server and directly connected clients, the current code in fed one
> should be sufficient, yes? Or are there corner cases I haven't thought about
> yet?
>
> All the issues raised in your earlier email seem to be about reliable
> delivery of messages between federating servers, unless I'm mistaken...
>
> brett
>
> --
> Brett Morgan http://domesticmouse.livejournal.com/
>
> >
>

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