If you're talking about Java Apps such as Windows programs, that's debatable. Those type of apps run well and fast in the *nix world, but in the Win world they seem to be prone to crashes and are slow. Knowing M$'s tactics, and their feeling about Java, I would hesitate in placing the blame for this solely in Sun's corner.
If you're talking about back end apps, then you couldn't be any further from the truth. Java is pretty much the language of choice for places that have to deal with intensive data processing / manuplation.
Pointing out mobile phones only stresses the strength of Java, that it can run almost anywhere, on anything. Of course, I haven't taken my Atari 800XL out of the closet to see if Java will run on it. :)
Ben Joyce wrote:
Java seems dead in the water as far as web (it's an overkill) and application (it's too slow) are concerned. However, should expect Java applications and games on mobile phones to do rather well.-----Original Message-----
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Well, most of his points are valid...just his method of delivery is a bit off. I noticed a couple of people on this list talking about how Java was dead, or how it was useless. Those people are either mis-informed, or M$ sheep. While I will agree that Java has no place on HTLM pages (to make snazzy (is that a word) menus, or fancy slide shows for images), Java is far from dead. I think that most of the people on this list just never really work with middle tier or back end applications to actually experience the power of Java.
This thread could go on and on with people flaming about how Java is better than .NET, or how .NET is better than Java (I've never used .NET, so I can't make an educated comparrison), but where would that get us? Water off a ducks back.
Stephen Caudill wrote:
Ross, No fault on your part, Peter only pops up once or twice amonth to
start flame wars and brag profusely about skills we mortalscan't conceive...<flame type="non-contributor bashing">spout acronyms
You know, I have never seen a URL in one of his sigs or any other supporting evidence that he actually does anything but
and buzz words, most often with poor grammar. If I amwrong on this,
I will happily eat my hat. Otherwise, I would prefer to hear a lot less from Mr. Kinev unless he decides to be helpful andcontribute to
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Whoa there!!
Never meant to get anybody's back up, it's just that in my
experience I've
never seen or needed to touch Java and as a result never bothered to dig too
deep.
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