Hi Sio,

> > > http://www.odihpn.org/revamp/index.htm
> > > I can't for the life of me to get the top row on this page 
> > > smaller unless I take out the drop down menu. Can anyone help?
> > 
> > Try setting the margins of the forms inside that row to 0px: <form
> > style="margin: 0px"> instead of <form>.
> 
> Ah, yes, that works, perfectomundo! 

Watch out for Netscape 4 though ;-)
 
> Ahh but as always there is a catch... Netscape 4.72. It looks... well, 
> shall I say, less than beautiful??
> Should I just forget about it?

Depends.... what percentage of your site's visitors are using it? Do you
mind giving a messier version of the site to these visitors? 

These days I hide all styles from Netscape, and my sanity level has risen
considerably since I started doing it - then again, I don't use tables for
layout any more either, so Netscape users still get a logical (albeit plain)
layout.

If validation doesn't matter to you, you may be able to move the <form>
outside the table:

<form>
  <table>
    <tr>
      <td>
        This input box should have no padding:
        <input name="foo">
      </td>
    </tr>
  </table>
</form>  

You might find that you'll end up with the form's margin padding the whole
table though (I haven't done this in a while, so I've forgotten)

Cheers
Jon

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